I just jumped on the portal to submit some CPE requests for podcasts. It appears that the portal has a glitch that doesn't recognise that means it doesn't remove the 250-500 word "book review" requirement for the podcasts, which makes it quite painful to submit the request. I have also found that if you are too close to either end (250 or 500), it glitches and tells you you haven't reached the 250-500 word limit.
@Fareed wrote:Wow. You've got a great setup there with all your colleagues. Sadly, we aren't all so lucky.
Our dozen attendees hold various certifications -- Secuirty+, CEH, CCSA, etc. Typically, we have two CISSPs in the room. We let anyone into our "CPE club", even those that have no CPE requirements, but are just interested in information and comradeship.
@Fareed wrote:
I have already invested about $70,000 in the CISSP - getting it and maintaining it over the years.
CISSP is 24 years old, indicating you are spending at least $2916.66 annually.
I was able to do it for $800 in the first year and $85 thereafter. I earn all my CPEs for free, mostly BrightTALK, vendor webinars and ISP Magazine. Are you charging your labor to your CISSP costs?
BTW if you're on the audit committee it would be great to know.
If I were, I would not be discussing audits on a public board or with those who might come under my review.
(ISC)² does offer formal advise in the CPE Handbook. Page 10 says "Members will need to provide proof of attendance or a brief description of the activity." Hence the reason I send myself (and others -- in the case of our CPE club) and email immediately after watching. The timestamp and the "I watched this" declaration is about as convincing as I can get.
Also my CPE earning goal is to have 120 CPEs at the end of month 29 and 140 by the end of month 36. This will provide a nice plan-B if I were to fail an audit and will also give me a good head-start (thanks to rollover) on my next cycle.
@Fareed wrote:
... during my reconciliation exercise I realized that the CPE credits and date matched the certificates I have for the magazine quiz....
You and I have different goals. I feel no desire to maintain a complete and accurate list of every CPE I have earned. My sole goal is to have at least 120 CPEs by the end of my cycle, with a few to spare incase I lose an audit (or audits).
The fact that CPEs offered by (ISC)² are automatically submitted and not subject to audit (CPE Handbook page 12) is incredibly freeing. As long as the total is right, I am done with them. No records, no self-audit, Don't care if the titles are right, nothing.
@Fareed wrote:
Yes, it makes the presentation take up to 50% longer to watch but it is the only way to get the proof I might need.
Or, you could spend 2 minutes generating minimal proof and the other 28 minutes watching another Webinar so that you can afford to lose an audit. After all, there is more than one way to reduce risk.
As I said, I email myself a screenshot of the webinar. In the case of BrightTALK, it can also be useful to include a screenshot of the webinar in your viewing history, since BrightTALK history only goes 10 videos deep. So maybe recordkeeping grows to 3 minutes.
And I want to add, so there's no misunderstanding, that the quality and value I am looking for in examining a security topic is more of a deeper dive, which is why I prefer taking on site courses. I would like to engage with an expert in whatever my particular area of focus at that time might be. While a webinar or video presentation certainly has value, there is little ability to examine in detail how the topic relates to the security circumstances at my organization. That is important to me. Thanks for considering my clarification and thank you to those who are endeavoring to present new ideas through Brighttalk. It is appreciated.
@Fareed wrote:
I don't go the low cost route in earning CPEs....there's no time for that.
The amusing part is that time is the motivating factor for both of us. Since a CPE represents 1 hour of educational effort, we will both spend 40 hours a year in an educational setting.
You view travel, hotels and a classroom setting as more time-efficient because you can knock the requirement out in one week. I view that as spending 120 hours to earn what I could have done in 40, an hour at a time after the kids have gone to bed.
For more "depth", you might additionally consider Cybrary. They do not auto-submit but they do have a "completion certificate" which is a great defense in an audit.
Another two weeks gone - any update yet? I've currently no way to view or manage my CPE's which is becoming a bit of a pain. I'd be happy if there was at least a way for me to review current CPE's.
@MStockdale Thank you for your comment and I apologize for the inconvenience. I will be happy to provide you information on your cycle. Please feel free to email me or send a DM with your primary email address on file and your member ID number, along with any questions you have.
Best Regards,
Amanda Vance
avance@isc2.org