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Advocate I

Re: CISSPforum replacement

Dain,

 

I understand the sentiment of being a stakeholder. 

 

But are you a shareholder?

 

Being a customer of the service, and a member of the (ISC)^2 professional organization doesn't give us rights to make business decisions on behalf of the company.  Nor does it entitle us to the details of every business decision, legal or regulatory requirement, or even the financials - which (ISC)^2 generously makes public (as far as I know (ISC)^2 isn't even a publicly traded company).

 

There was a comment a while back about how the lawyers have been finding their way into InfoSec leadership roles... there's a reason that has been a thing.  A lot of security folks don't think beyond the ideal, and the "tech".  We live in a world with rules, laws, and regulations.  And like them or not, when they're violated, there are often consequences.

 

This isn't break-fix, disaster recovery, or incident response.  This is business process re-engineering.  Shortsightedness and narrow technology-focused thinking are what is killing this profession in my opinion.

 

I don't know what to expect from (ISC)^2 given that they have this Community - but I wouldn't be surprised if the private forums over at groups.io gets hit with a cease and desist letter for usurping the CISSP brand.

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Re: CISSPforum replacement


@@Baechle wrote:

But are you a shareholder?



Well, as a matter of fact, yes.

 


"Being a customer of the service, and a member of the (ISC)^2 professional organization doesn't give us rights to make business decisions on behalf of the company.  Nor does it entitle us to the details of every business decision, legal or regulatory requirement, or even the financials - which (ISC)^2 generously makes public (as far as I know (ISC)^2 isn't even a publicly traded company)."

 


True, it isn't publicly traded.  Neither is it a private company.  It's a member organization.  Thus we are all (at least those of us with certs) shareholders.  It's a not-for-profit, so there is no value to the shares, but ISC2 is us.

 


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Re: CISSPforum replacement

Rob,

 


@rslade wrote:


True, it isn't publicly traded.  Neither is it a private company.  It's a member organization.  Thus we are all (at least those of us with certs) shareholders.  It's a not-for-profit, so there is no value to the shares, but ISC2 is us.

 


Good point.  How about sitting on the Board?

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Re: CISSPforum replacement


@@Baechle wrote:

 

 


@@@rslad wrote:


True, it isn't publicly traded.  Neither is it a private company.  It's a member organization.  Thus we are all (at least those of us with certs) shareholders.  It's a not-for-profit, so there is no value to the shares, but ISC2 is us.

 


Good point.  How about sitting on the Board?


I could do that.  If anyone asked.


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Re: CISSPforum replacement

Rob,

 


@rslade wrote:


I could do that.  If anyone asked.


EDIT: I apologize for my original remarks.  They appeared a little snarky when I reread them.  "How about sitting on the Board?" - I thought I just asked? /EDIT

 

I don't know if that's how it works.  I thought it was Members with strong personalities deciding that instead of quitting over their frustrations not being listened to, that they decide to stand up and steer the community in the direction they want.

 

Then you ask us what else we want, and if you have our support during the next election.

 

Of course it probably requires a lot of marketing through social media... like the LinkedIn group.  So, maybe you're not up for that?

 

EB

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Re: CISSPforum replacement

I should note that the CISSPforum FAQ has been updated ...


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