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drobinson138
Newcomer I

Becoming an authorized instructor

I am interested in becoming an ISC2 instructor. I am unable to find any information on the site regarding what the process is to become an instructor. Can you some advise me on how to get started. Thanks 

 

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AlecTrevelyan
Community Champion

Navigate to Contact > Training either through this Community site or ISC2's main website.

 

Or click this direct link:

 

https://www.isc2.org/Contact-Us#accordion-96a290048c69416ab3ad87f6c87f8952

 

From there you can find details on who to contact to kick off the process to become an authorised training provider.

 

drobinson138
Newcomer I

Thanks Alec! Greatly appreciated
rslade
Influencer II

> drobinson138 (Viewer II) edited a topic in Welcome on 12-12-2020 01:11 PM in the (ISC)² Community :

> I am interested in becoming an ISC2 instructor. I am unable to find any
> information on the site regarding what the process is to become an
> instructor. Can you some advise me on how to get started.

There actually *is* a process. *Somewhere* I have the contact info. However,
that is *much* less interesting than being able to make a comment about what you
*really* need.

You need to know all of the CBK. All the domains. In detail. A great deal of
detail. You need to be able to stand up in front of a class that includes at least half
a dozen people who not only have fifteen to twenty years of experience in
security, but are also pretty expert in some fairly major specialties, speak for 40
hours, and not make a fool of yourself. (You also have to be able to handle
having Cisco employees in the class who have definitely drunk the company
Koolaid and simply can't fathom that anything in telecom is an issue.)

You also need to recognize, even if you only admit it to yourself, that you don't
know everything. I don't think there was a single seminar that I did that I didn't
learn *something*.

You need to be able to communicate this mess of facts and protocols without
sounding like you are reciting the phone book. You also need to be able to meet
your candidates where they are (which is sometimes on quite a different planet).

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drobinson138
Newcomer I

Appreciate the insight. Definitely something to consider.
rslade
Influencer II

> drobinson138 (Newcomer I) posted a new reply in Welcome on 12-13-2020 06:13 AM

> Appreciate the insight. Definitely something to consider.

OK, maybe that seemed like a bit of a daunting challenge. I'll give you a tip:
review security books.

Lots of 'em.

By the time I sat the exam, I was already known, at meetings and conferences and
online, as "the book guy." At that time I had reviewed over 300 books in the
security literature catalogue. Reviewed, which means I a) had to read them (all the
way through), b) had to understand them, and c) had to test my understanding by
sending my opinion out onto the Internet. (Believe me, if you get it wrong, the
net will let you know.)

Start with "Security Engineering," by Ross Anderson. It's the best. Anything Ross
writes is worth reading. You should get a copy. But, if you're a little pressed for
cash, you can also read it for free, online:
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rja14/book.html

Then you can see what your library has, also for free.

By that time you might start to get a name for yourself, and you can start
contacting publishers and asking for review copies. To find the addresses of
publishers, you can check out the reviews I did. Most of them have the addresses
in the reviews:
http://victoria.tc.ca/int-grps/books/techrev/mnbksc.htm
(If you just want to start out with the best of the bunch, because there's a lot of
[pr0n filter] out there, then start with:
http://victoria.tc.ca/int-grps/books/techrev/mnbksccd.htm )

It's a really good way to make sure you know the field.

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AVilleneuve
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Sir

This is one of the best replies to the question of what it takes to be an Instructor that I have seen in a long time.

Well said and thank you for being so blunt, frank, and real.

Arnold

Kdaily
Newcomer II

I submitted my resume via the membership email on the contact page for becoming an instructor and they have no idea why they are listed as the point of contact... So who knows if I'll ever even get to start the process. 

 

I have 15 years of experience in RMF so I'm not worries about knowledge/experience.  My question is them watching me teach.  Do they provide me with a class of students or am I teaching to the evaluators?  Is it really 40 hours of teaching that they watch?

csjohnng
Community Champion

@Kdaily 

I guess the best for you is the send your enquiry that to the local ISC2 representatives and they will direct you to the right person/contact to see how is the onboarding / certification process.

 

Before I left Hong Kong a couple of month ago, I was contacted to see I could be a trainer to teach CSSLP, so I was just start a little bit on the process but due to the fact I am leaving Hong Kong, I did not proceed forward and did not go through the whole process.

John
Kdaily
Newcomer II

I emailed them maybe a month ago? They didn't know who to send my resume to, or even that the website said to contact member support. Last week I got an email that they sent the resume to the training department... Maybe I'll hear back soon.