Dress code

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[dcontesti]

Where did you find this Rob?  I find it hilarious.

What if, as a woman, I don't own a pant suit or heels?  Does that mean I can never be a pen tester? 

I love stuff like this, gives me my evening giggle.

Diana

[CISOScott]

It looks like courseware from EC Council....

[Early_Adopter]

I used to work for a company that had a policy for employees to be two orders of dress smarter than th ecustomer - they are in jean you’re in chinos, they get the Chinos you’re in pressed Woolen Business pants with a faint pinstripe.

Naturally no one ever did this, but there were lost of amusing time wasting conversations on the inevitable custome in full formal business attire that you then need you need to find a tux or ceremonial uniform of some sort... the cleverest guy on one of the projects looked like Keith from the Progidy, funnily enough no one ever told him off about it... 

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> dcontesti (Newcomer III) posted a new reply in Career on 11-02-2018 01:55 AM in the (ISC)² Community :

> Where did you find this Rob?

Originally on Twitter. It seems to be out of some official ECSA manual or
training guide.

> I find it hilarious.   What if, as a woman, I don't own a pant suit or
> heels?  Does that mean I can never be a pen tester?

Hey, you're a girl. Of course you can't be a pen tester. Or any other tech worker,
either 🙂

(Did you see Jack's post on the CISSPforum about heels keeping you up off the
ground and away from bugs? 🙂

>    I love stuff like
> this, gives me my evening giggle.

We aims to please 🙂

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[dcontesti]

LOL

Did not see Jack's post yet, however I thought Walt's post on stilettos in the office was good......I much prefer my steel toed boots when dealing with bugs 🙂

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> Early_Adopter (Advocate I) posted a new reply in Career on 11-02-2018 10:23 AM in the (ISC)² Community :

> I used to work for a company that had a policy for employees to be two
> orders of dress smarter than th ecustomer

As part of one consulting job I was temporarily managing a customer tech support
department. The CEO was really bugged about one of the support guys (they were
all guys) wearing jeans. (I mean, it was *phone* support. I had dealt with one call
soaking wet after I cycled in through the rain.) But I asked the worker if he would,
as a favour, please wear slacks, and he did.

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> dcontesti (Newcomer III) posted a new reply in Career on 11-02-2018 01:48 PM in the (ISC)² Community :

> I much prefer my steel toed boots when dealing with bugs

🙂

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[Flyslinger2]

LOL - I've been out in the field on installs and had my sponsor call me and say that Admiral So and So just came on base and wants to see your presentation. I'm standing there in my shorts and Tommy Bahama shirt and sandals (it's San Diego-heaven on earth). I tell my sponsor of my attire and he doesn't care!  

The stuffiest place on earth to work is Washington, D.C. everyone wears suits and ties. My current customer wears ties in a research facility-it's dirty, lots of electronics and machinery and nasty stuff. They frown on my TB shirts! LOL

We had a saying back home in farm country-if a barn needs painting paint it.  If you need to wear fancy clothes to hide other issues go for it.

Way too much is focused on outward appearance and not the character and talents inside.

[Early_Adopter]

I’m sure when the right time comes we’ll all be “sensibly dressed in ankle/wrist length woolen gowns and leather weather helms”.

[CraginS]

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The stuffiest place on earth to work is Washington, D.C. everyone wears suits and ties.

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Back when EDS was still an independent company owned by Ross Perot (pre-GM), Ross was famous for keeping the old IBM dress code of full suits, white shirts, and ties for all engineers, even after IBM relaxed their own rules. EDS had a major systems management and maintenance contract at the headquarters of the Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA), about a mile from the Pentagon. I was working on a project with several of the EDS staff at that time.

The three-star general Director of DISA had an all-hands meeting at the headquarters. While seated in the first row of the gathering, he had a deep discussion on DISA policy items with the several suited men (yes, all male) near him, assuming they were all senior executives of DISA due to their dress.  Later in the day, one of his senior executives told him the third guy down was an EDS contract engineer. 

The general directed his contracting office to notify EDS that from then on, all engineers would NOT wear suits to work. My EDS buddies were ecstatic, and from then on wore polo shirts and khakis to work, much better for crawling around server rooms, dragging cables, and slipping between racks to deal with the equipment.