OK, *now* we're in trouble ...

[rslade]

For some reason, on the Johns Hopkins CoVID-19 dashboard, Canada, as a country, has disappeared.  (If you switch to the province/state/dependency mode, the individual provinces with infections still show up.)

This is disturbing, for someone who lives there ...

[Steve-Wilme]

Hey, I learnt a great dealing from watch the Open University or popular science programmes on TV 😉

[rslade]

[Beads]

Clearly there to remind people that you get what you pay for.

- b/eads

[Shannon]

The curfew here was lifted last week, and so most of us returned to work.

Preventive & detective measures taken by the organization I'm with are: -

1. Provision of kits containing masks, gloves & a hand sanitizer.
2. Screening of people who enter with thermal scanners.
3. Use of a UV light booth to 'sterilize' people who enter.
4. Distribution of leaflets with info on how to properly use masks.

I'm sure this is all incredibly effective (NOT!). Here's why...

1. The organization ran out of kits on the very 1st day, & hasn't bothered replenishing their stock.
2. Screening is only offered at the main entrance --- but the other entrances / exits aren't kept locked.
3. People aren't compelled to use the booth, & most walk around it.
4. The leaflets have all info in Arabic, & so are of no significance to those unable to comprehend it.

I've told my colleagues that it's not really a deployed control; just a failed PoC...  

[denbesten]

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@Shannon wrote:

Preventive & detective measures taken by the organization I'm with are: -

       3. Use of a UV light booth to 'sterilize' people who enter.

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They might check with medical experts on this one.  My UV-C water-sanitizer specifically warns of eye risk and includes an interlock to depower the bulb when opened.  Along similar lines, UV tanning booths in the US must provide eye-protection.

Oh, and it is good to hear that they are not compelling sterilization. .  Sanitization and sterilization are not the same thing.

[Shannon]

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@denbesten wrote:

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Oh, and it is good to hear that they are not compelling sterilization. .  Sanitization and sterilization are not the same thing.

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 sorry, I meant sanitization.    

[Beads]

We're gonna have to heat up the coals, good and hot before we rake you over them.

- b/eads

[Caute_cautim]

If you go with the 5G conspiracy team, just leave them under a 5G tower and perhaps they will be sanitised and sterilised, if there was sufficient power - or perhaps just sit in front of  Radar Wave-guide for a few moments and feel the warmth.   To make it more exciting, do this on top of a rolling ship, when attempting to repair it, is an experience.   But make sure you have the fuses in your pocket before proceeding or disable the system, before doing so.

Regards

Caute_cautim

[rslade]

Feel the warmth burn ...

[rslade]

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@Shannon wrote:

1. Use of a UV light booth to 'sterilize' people who enter.

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A new market has opened up for devices that shine ultraviolet (UV) light. UV does kill viruses and even bacteria, and sometimes very effectively. Also, UV, in small doses, is safe: it’s present in sunlight. A surface placed in direct sunlight will be disinfected of SARS-CoV-2 within about four hours. The thing is, the part of the UV spectrum that does the cleansing (known as UV-C) is mostly filtered by the atmosphere. (Also by glass, like in windows.) An ordinary decorative “blacklight” is not going to disinfect anything. And any UV-C source that is strong enough to kill viruses is potentially strong enough to do some serious damage to you.

When I worked at the hospital, we had a UV-C device for debriding wounds. I never used it. The only people who were allowed to use it were a specialized office in the physio department, since, if misused, it could be very dangerous. A careless exposure of less than a minute could cause damage that would strip the skin off your arms. When I worked in industrial first aid, we were taught about “arc flash conjunctivitus.” When arc welders are careless with welding goggles, the ultraviolet light produced by their welding can damage the surface of their eyes.

We are seeing many different types of UV devices being sold to disinfect different things. We are being shown videos of devices (even one walk-through booth) that shine a vaguely purplish light that is supposed to kill viruses. If you can “see” the ultraviolet light that is strong enough to kill viruses, it is strong enough to damage your eyes.