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wmheid
Newcomer III

CCSP Exam Failed for the second time!

Before you start looking for a tissue to hand me because you think I need to wipe tears away, think again.  Failing twice stinks!  That's it.  I'm over it.

 

If you are going to pursue this certification, the first thing you are going to find out is IT'S HARD! 

 

English isn't my first language and I remember sitting in my U.S. Citizenship interview pointing out the grammatical errors on the English test they were giving me.  Definitely had a couple of those situations today that I had to get past.  I say "1 and 1 = 2" while other English speaking countries say "1 +1 = 2".  Had a few of those types of questions today.  

 

Here is my advice, so fasten your seat belt!

 

When looking at training options, evaluate carefully!

 

1. If its free (youtube), I usually can't afford it.  I found a free course from a person that works at a Regional bank.  Nice looking documents, but some errors in the videos and the documents that are very distracting.  Be careful with free.

 

2. If you subscribe to a course and in one of the early video's the person spend several minutes telling you about a beverage they drink every night and that you may hear them opening a can of it, well, probably best to do what I did and cancel the subscription.  At one point, I pointed out a very wrong statement in their material.  Although the author seemed to agree, they brushed me off and stated if a few more people pointed it out, they would consider making a change.

 

3.  Do you use Udemy?  There is an older course there that covers "what you need to know" and you can get  the new course from that person's website.  Spoiler alert:  what I did the worst on in both CCSP attempts is not covered in that course.  At least 3 sections of the Exam Outline on ISC2 list the missing materials as being testable.

 

4.  When you find a course, paid or free, look at some of the other courses from that person.  How many courses do the have?  What are they certified in?  I usually listen to the first hour or so of the other courses and if they tell me that passed CISSP (or anything else) back when it was all done on paper and you had to wait for the grade, that's a complete give away that they haven't sat for the test recently.  As for me, anyone remember Novell?  I was one of the first 1,000 CNE's ever certified, so I have taken a cert test or two.

 

I get that there is a huge bank of questions from which only 125 are selected, but I promise, my two tests were as different as night and day.  I can't point to one set of materials that have made me successful, because I haven't been successful.  Personally, I am a hardware/admin kind of guy and have done very little programming (see Domain 4, section 4.2, 4.3 etc.), but a lot of security.  Maybe that's where I am tripping.  I'm a big boy, I'll dust myself off and try the test again at some point in the future.

 

If you read this far, then go here:  https://www.isc2.org/certifications/ccsp/ccsp-certification-exam-outline

 

Read it closely, start over at the top of my email, read the exam outline again, and then figure out the best approach/materials for you!

 

Recently, I attended a webinar where the presenter stated that the test writers, the study materials and the actual test are not aligned and may not be communicating that well; I agree.  They also pointed out that this is not an R & R (read and regurgitate) test which is what you are used to from the academic world.  This certification is about learning how to apply a massive amount of concepts and a handful of definitions.

 

Those are my thoughts and my opinions, I welcome yours.

9 Replies
ericgeater
Community Champion

That is a tough break.  At the very least, you should definitely pay attention to the domains where you were below proficiency.

 

And I will suggest you look at Ben Malisow's WannaBeA learning material.  When I studied for CCSP, I supplemented my learning with his Udemy material.  I am not saying this just because I like his product, but because he offers discounts if you've previously failed the exam.

 

Which books did you use?  I bought the CCSP Official Study Guide, 3rd Edition and the accompanying practice tests.  I also had access to a FedVTE program, but it was nowhere as comprehensive as the book... and kind of a distraction.

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lalitavrao
Viewer II

Don't give up. I failed 2 times also and passed 3rd time. I have multiple certifications. I found that the CCSP was the worst exam that I took. I was also studying for Azure certification. Maybe look at Microsoft learn and, AWS security videos. They are free.
wmheid
Newcomer III

Thanks Eric,  I used those materials, the LearnZapp and Mike Chapple's course on LinkedIn.  I improved with the second exam and will take it again at some point in the future.  For the next 60 days or so, I am focused on CISSP and a couple of non-ISC2 exams.  The combination of those exams should help me with a few things that I know I am weaker on in the CCSP materials.

wmheid
Newcomer III

Thank you, lilitavrao, definitely some good suggestions.  I have had the AZ-500 materials laying around here for a while, so I'll add them to my list of things to look at.

nkeaton
Contributor I

I am sorry to hear that.  I used CSA (Cloud Security Alliance) and NIST materials for mine, all no cost online.  I did read the Sybex book but was not my best resource.  The biggest problem with vendor certifications is that they use non-standard terminology and concepts.  CSA help ISC2 develop the CCSP and ISACA develop their CCAK.  I believe that their materials are the best for the cloud portion (about 50% of the exam).  I was already comfortable with the cybersecurity portion.  

Steve-Wilme
Advocate II

You might give the CSA CCSK exam a try before reattempting.  It's literally 3 days study and a short open book online exam.  Don't imagine you'll be able to look up all the answers though there isn't time.  If you've already studied for the CCSP and are familiar with the CSA CCM you should pass it without difficulty.

 

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Steve Wilme CISSP-ISSAP, ISSMP MCIIS
frazipe
Viewer

Thanks for the info. I just failed for the 1st time so I'm looking for different avenues than just repeating what I've already done.

nkeaton
Contributor I

I do understand why you say that, but maybe they just need to read the CSA materials as that is what is best for cloud concepts and security, with the assumption that the cybersecurity part of the exam was not what they had difficulty with.  I do have both the CCSP and CCSK.  I did my CCSK a month after my CCSP but is a long story that would not fit for most.  I also found NIST materials helpful.  

nkeaton
Contributor I

If helpful, I mostly used CSA (Cloud Security Alliance) and NIST no cost documents for mine.  CSA helped ISC2 develop their CCSP and ISACA their CCAK.  The exam is about equal portions of cloud and cybersecurity which is reflected in the exam outline.  Best wishes.