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Can we get rid of the stupid pr0n filter? Please?

So that we can discuss legitimate security issues like revenge pr0n without having to use stupid workarounds like that?

 

Really.  This is supposed to be for professionals.  Not kids.


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Contributor I

Re: Can we get rid of the stupid pr0n filter? Please?

Can't help but agree here.

 

Seems a bit uncalled for really. We should be able to converse about such issues as professionals and, perhaps more importantly, as adults.

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Re: Can we get rid of the stupid pr0n filter? Please?

I have to disagree with you on this one.

 

It only takes one person to complain and potentially lodge a lawsuit.  Like most organizations, (ISC)2 has the responsibility to protect itself and its' members.

 

Whilst at a large organization that had a medical department, I had the honor of implementing a content filter.  Imagine what this did to the Doctors and Nurses who had to file reports electronically with various external organizations.....Yes we had to find workarounds, etc.

 

In this case this site is not private, it is open to the public.  First you do not have to be a member of (ISC)2 to join and second it is searchable on engines like google....just open google and type in (ISC)2 fraud and you see messages that have been posted here.

 

So we really don't have that many words that are problematic.  And maybe if we come up with a list, we could ask management to reconsider whitelisting those words.

 

My nickel on a cold Friday evening

 

Diana

 

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Re: Can we get rid of the stupid pr0n filter? Please?


@dcontesti wrote:

 

It only takes one person to complain and potentially lodge a lawsuit.  Like most organizations, (ISC)2 has the responsibility to protect itself and its' members.


A fair point, but not an unmanageable one.

 


In this case this site is not private, it is open to the public.  First you do not have to be a member of (ISC)2 to join and second it is searchable on engines like google....just open google and type in (ISC)2 fraud and you see messages that have been posted here.

Oh, I know it is open to the public.  I have posted elsewhere on that issue.  I use Google to search the site, since it is much faster than using the internal search feature.

 

First of all, that gives us an out in terms of liability.  We are open to the public, so our liability is reduced in terms of our requirement for content management.

 

However, we do have lots of active members, and a bunch of community moderators.  I'm sure that if someone posted something truly offensive it would be found, reported, and "archived" in fairly short order.

 

Besides, I don't have to say pen1s or d1ldo to get people upset.

 

Trump.

 

See?  I have just upset about half the people on the "community."  (Half of that half are upset because they think I've made fun of Trump, and the other half of the half is upset that I haven't said something nasty about Trump.)

 

We don't need a word filter.

 


So we really don't have that many words that are problematic.  And maybe if we come up with a list, we could ask management to reconsider whitelisting those words.

Yeah, I already tried that ...

 


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Re: Can we get rid of the stupid pr0n filter? Please?

@rslade 

So is this the list?

 

pr0n OK

throbbing OK

breast OK

bum OK

b@st@rds OK

 

I can understand all of them except br3st.

 

@SamanthaO_isc2 Is it possible to discuss this list of words and see if we can get them unblocked?

 


@rslade wrote:

@dcontesti wrote:

 

It only takes one person to complain and potentially lodge a lawsuit.  Like most organizations, (ISC)2 has the responsibility to protect itself and its' members.


A fair point, but not an unmanageable one.

 

@rslade while I was at Congress I was approached by a lady who took offense to some of the things said on the Community......I asked her to complain to either David Shearer or Wes Simpson.  Not sure she did.

 


In this case this site is not private, it is open to the public.  First you do not have to be a member of (ISC)2 to join and second it is searchable on engines like google....just open google and type in (ISC)2 fraud and you see messages that have been posted here.

Oh, I know it is open to the public.  I have posted elsewhere on that issue.  I use Google to search the site, since it is much faster than using the internal search feature.

 

First of all, that gives us an out in terms of liability.  We are open to the public, so our liability is reduced in terms of our requirement for content management.

 

However, we do have lots of active members, and a bunch of community moderators.  I'm sure that if someone posted something truly offensive it would be found, reported, and "archived" in fairly short order.


It's the lawsuits that I would be worried about.....

 

Just my nickel

 

Diana

 

 

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Re: dcontesti mentioned you in (ISC)² Community

> dcontesti (Contributor I) mentioned you in a post! Join the conversation below:

>     @SamanthaO_isc2 Is it
> possible to discuss this list of words and see if we can get them unblocked?

Well, that's kind of the whole point. No, we *can't* discuss them, because if we
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Re: Can we get rid of the stupid pr0n filter? Please?


@dcontesti wrote:

while I was at Congress I was approached by a lady who took offense to some of the things said on the Community......I asked her to complain to either David Shearer or Wes Simpson.  Not sure she did.


1) I imagine that she didn't.  Lots of people complain when it's easy, but don't want to expend effort on being specific in order to improve the situation.

 

2) It might be interesting (although probably not) to find out what gave offence.  As I mentioned before, often "controversial political statements" Trump any list of "rude words" we might come up with.

 

And I still think it's highly unlikely that ISC2 will be sued.  Indeed, many corps have taken the position (and have significant legal justification) that making an attempt to filter, screen, or censor content puts them in greater legal danger, since it seems to promise a lack of offensive material, and, when it fails to prevent any and all offence, then the enterprise can be sued on the basis of that failure.

 

If ISC2 is still worried about being sued on the basis of user content, you can follow the lead of movie DVDs and note, at the bottom of every page if you like, "This page/site contains user generated content.  Opinions and statements do not represent the position of ISC2 or any of its officers or certificates, and possibly don't represent the opinions of anyone at all, except Rob Slade, whom everyone knows is just an AI experiment gone badly wrong."


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Re: Can we get rid of the stupid pr0n filter? Please?

... And, yet another reason why the dreaded pr0n filter is a mistake: limitations on being able to post URLs/links to legitimate resources ...


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Re: Can we get rid of the stupid pr0n filter? Please?


@rslade wrote:

... And, yet another reason why the dreaded pr0n filter is a mistake: limitations on being able to post URLs/links to legitimate resources ...


Resurrecting this thread because of the pr0n filter hit I got in 


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Re: Can we get rid of the stupid pr0n filter? Please?

So we keep asking for info, etc. on this filter and have heard nothing.

 

@SamanthaO_isc2  @amandavanceISC2 @KaityEagle I would ask that maybe one of the admins could escalate this internally to the appropriate person so that we can understand the issues, etc with removing it, changing it, or what ever is needed.