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Newcomer I

Honestly, why are we still using flash in e-Symposium?

It is not secure and it takes me more than an hour to get it to work on Firefox (had tried Chrome & Edge but never got it to work).

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Contributor I

Re: Honestly, why are we still using flash in e-Symposium?

Chrome no longer supports flash:

 

https://www.theverge.com/2016/12/9/13903878/google-chrome-block-flash-html5

 

 Flash is still out there because of how poorly browsers comply with what are supposed to be, ahem, standards -- I'm looking squarely at you Safari.

 

If you're using Edge, well, I wouldn't admit that in public.

 

If, and that's "if", you have the latest version of Flash, and Firefox, and it's enabled, then it shouldn't take you an hour to do anything.    All you need to do is go to the site and the mobile code is loaded.  What exactly are you doing that takes an hour of configuration?

(ISC)² Team

Re: Honestly, why are we still using flash in e-Symposium?

While our platform provider Blue Sky eLearn has no plans to move away from Adobe Connect (where these webcasts are presented on), users can install a new standalone application that installs independently from the Adobe Flash Player, and outside of the Adobe Flash Player directory structure.

 

The new Adobe Connect application will fully remove the need for a web browser to join meetings and replaces the current Add-in experience.

 

You can access more information on this and the links for download here from Adobe (links for both Windows and MacOS users)

Newcomer I

Re: Honestly, why are we still using flash in e-Symposium?

Anything for us Linux users? 

 

And I share the OP's horror in the fact that you choose to use Flash in 2018. I take it it's the DRM components that it relies on - but really?

Newcomer I

Re: Honestly, why are we still using flash in e-Symposium?

Another Linux user here, disapointed I can't access the content. 

Newcomer I

Re: Honestly, why are we still using flash in e-Symposium?

The good news is, it's September of 2019, so surely there's a better way to do this, right?

 

Apparently not.

 

Emailed blue sky tech support, they said "ask ISC"

 

Emailed ISC support and got the below. Seriously???

 

Hello,

We are constantly trying to make improvements to stay in-touch with the times. We will make adjustments accordingly in order to stay in line with website trends. Please, visit our community board for more information regarding that particular change.

Thank you,

Alexander Marengi (C)
Member Services Coordinator

(ISC)², Inc.

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Re: Honestly, why are we still using flash in e-Symposium?

Isn't Flash almost single-handedly responsible for global warming?

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Community Champion

Re: Honestly, why are we still using flash in e-Symposium?

Google says "We will remove Flash completely from Chrome toward the end of 2020." 

 

Mozilla says "When Adobe stops shipping security updates for Flash at the end of 2020, Firefox will refuse to load the plugin."

 

Microsoft says "Flash will be completely removed from all browsers by December 31, 2020, via Windows Update."

 

Apple has hated flash for a decade and generally prohibits or sets up roadblocks for running flash, even today.

 

Give it another 16 months and I bet BlueSky and (ISC)² will be singing a different tune.

Viewer II

Re: Honestly, why are we still using flash in e-Symposium?

Because security isn't a big concern of ISC2.

Contributor II

Re: Honestly, why are we still using flash in e-Symposium?


@cheungtsw wrote:

It is not secure and it takes me more than an hour to get it to work on Firefox (had tried Chrome & Edge but never got it to work).


Three things:

1 - Flash is going away, yes (ISC)2 is behind the times apparently

 

2 - There are better, standards-based alternatives (HTML 5). No excuse for not moving to it and no excuses among end users for not being able to view HTML 5 video

 

3 - Let's not ignore the fact that half of the problems with Flash relate to the browser and OS that Flash was running on. If Flash is "not secure" then why are we still using MS Office products given the volume of vulnerabilities over the years? If we are going to start generalizing, then let's start with the porous operating systems that turn these vulnerabilities into catastrophes. A well designed OS doesn't allow one faulty program to compromise the entire system. Otherwise, we're like the person who orders a large cheese pizza, double fries, and three bacon wrapped cheesburgers who says it's the large Coke they get with the meal that's the problem.