Why does ISC2 use 11 trackers on isc2.org?

[peterbauman]

My EFF Privacy badger warns me that there are 11 trackers blocked

11 potential trackers blocked

secure.adnxs.com

script.crazyegg.com

securepubads.g.doubleclick.net

www.google-analytics.com

adservice.google.com

www.googleadservices.com

fonts.gstatic.com

px.ads.linkedin.com

px.spiceworks.com

t.co

analytics.twitter.com

On this community website the list of trackers is different again:

6 potential trackers blocked
cdnjs.cloudflare.com
securepubads.g.doubleclick.net
www.google-analytics.com
adservice.google.com
fonts.gstatic.com
js-agent.newrelic.com

Is that really needed? Does ISC2 sell user information? The earning model for them works differently, right? Then why all the trackers? 

kind regards,

Peter

PS: apologies if this has been raised before. I searched for it but could not find it.

[Steve-Wilme]

Some 'trackers' serve a valid security purpose.  If you examine a site that uses a CDN/WAF, you'll find the WAF element often uses some form of user tracking for security purposes.

[dcontesti]

Peter,

Have not seen this raised before, but it is a good question.

(ISC)2 is not suppose to sell user information but I think the proper folks to answer this one are in management (we can ask them to explain or at a minimum address).

@AndreaMoore could you pass to the powers that be and ask that they review and if possible comment?

Regards

d

[rslade]

> peterbauman (Viewer) posted a new topic in Privacy on 10-20-2020 06:47 AM in the (ISC)² Community :


> Does ISC2 sell user information?

Oh, come. You don't expect ISC2 to provide this valuable pooling of ignorance
for nothing, do you?

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[AndreaMoore]

Thank you for your inquiry into our cookie policy.

To address any privacy concerns, we do not sell data collected by these cookies or tracking pixels to anyone. (ISC)² will treat any personally identifiable information that is gathered on this site as confidential. It will not be shared, bartered or sold to ANY third party without a user’s express consent. An example of this is during registration for our sponsored webinars or a conference, when users are asked whether or not they would like to opt-in to being contacted by a third-party. You can review our Privacy Policy linked below for more details.

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[peterbauman]

Thank you for  your reply.

My concern is not so much privacy, I am just wondering why is it needed?

I don't see any ads on this community page. Some people don't have Twitter accounts, however there is data sent to Twitter (anonymous most likely)

px.ads.linkedin.com
analytics.twitter.com
adservice.google.com

But is it needed? Why risk it? does it benefit the ISC2 members?

[peterbauman]

Additionally, I checked why EFF's privacy badger is actually blocking third party trackers. And this is what they said:

Why does Privacy Badger block ads?

Actually, nothing in the Privacy Badger code is specifically written to block ads. Rather, it focuses on disallowing any visible or invisible “third party” scripts or images that appear to be tracking you even though you specifically denied consent by sending a Do Not Track header. It just so happens that most (but not all) of these third party trackers are advertisements. When you see an ad, the ad sees you, and can track you. Privacy Badger is here to stop that.

So even they don't know who I am, they know that I first went to, for example,  ebay and then to ISC2 and then I will get an Ad about security when I am on another website.

Why do you do that? do you get money for that. Does that money end up with the members?

[tmekelburg1]

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@peterbauman wrote:

My concern is not so much privacy, I am just wondering why is it needed?

I don't see any ads on this community page. Some people don't have Twitter accounts, however there is data sent to Twitter (anonymous most likely)

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This is the way I understand it but I'm sure someone else in the Community knows way more about it than I do. Let's say I'm logged into Twitter on my phone. I don't sign out and sign into (ISC)2 Community still using my phone. Information is sent to Twitter that I visited the Community. I'll start seeing ads on my Twitter feed for (ISC)2 on prices of their certifications and training. There typically is a very small monetary exchange between Twitter and (ISC)2 for every click on the advertisement. 

It's not unusual for this to happen and is quite common nowadays. The (ISC)2's Marketing dept. is most likely responsible for setting this up.  

[AndreaMoore]

@peterbauman 

Our tags are part of common digital marketing practices that are widely adopted by marketers across various industries. The Google tag allows us to see what keyword searches are bringing traffic to our site. This also allows us to serve content to those who have already visited our site as they browse the web elsewhere. Our ads only appear on websites that participate in the Google Advertising Network. The LinkedIn tag allows us to show content to LinkedIn members who have visited our site within a certain timeframe. We aim to offer content that is relevant to the pages users have visited on our site.

We do not make money off of ad impressions. Our revenue would come from someone seeing content and then purchasing one of our products like training or courseware.