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Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election


@denbesten wrote:

@AppDefects wrote:

... why is this topic being suppressed from showing on the forum boards for "Hot Topics" and "Latest Topics" ?

I don't think "suppressed" is the right word.  Suppressed implies deliberate action on somebody's part to remove something that would otherwise be visible.   Since the forum's main page is automatically generated, the more likely cause is that other topics better met the qualifications for 3 of the 4 places that this topic could conceivably appear:

 

  • "Latest topics" shows the 5 topics that were most recently started, as measured by the date of the initial posting.  Clicking ">>" a few times reveals that 53 topics have been started subsequent to this one (as I write this), which is why it is not in the top 5.
  • "Top Kudoed", shows the 5 topics with the most Kudos that were given to the initial posting.  Since the initial post has zero kudos, this discussion appears at about the 100th position on that list and is visible if you click "load more" enough.  It does appear that "Latest Topics" is used as a secondary sort on this list and that discussion topics age off the list after 30 days or so.
  • "Solved" shows the 5 topics that have most recently been marked as "solved".  Since this capability has only been enabled in the "Tech Talk" group, this discussion topic is ineligible for that list due to it being in the "Member Support" group.
  • "Recent Activity" is the list on which this topic has generally been in the top 5.  In the few times it has been bumped out, it has been within one or two "load more" clicks.

You are probably right about the algorithm, but I suspect it has more to do with this discussion being in the Member Support area then anything as the reason it is not being promoted. That is why I asked @amandavanceISC2 to respond. Thanks.

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Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

> wimremes (Newcomer III) posted a new reply in Member Support on 06-27-2019 10:07

> facts aren't ad hominem, Richard.

Oh, unsupported "facts" pretty much are.

Take a breath, Wim. You are not doing your position any good by creating rants.
You may have some good points, but you need to make them *very* carefully, if
they are going to carry any weight, when directed against an individual.

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Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election


@rslade wrote:
> wimremes (Newcomer III) posted a new reply in Member Support on 06-27-2019 10:07

> facts aren't ad hominem, Richard.

Oh, unsupported "facts" pretty much are.

This is exactly why the membership needs full access to Committee meeting minutes and work notes. 

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Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

> AppDefects (Contributor II) posted a new reply in Member Support on 06-27-2019

> @amandavanceISC2 why is this topic being suppressed from showing on the forum
> boards for "Hot Topics" and "Latest Topics" ?

Oh, oh! I know the answer to this one! Pick me!

"Latest topics" is simply based on the creation date of the *original* post that
started a thread or topic. Since that first post was all of a week ago, it doesn't
matter that a hundred replies have been made since, nor that this is the *most*
active topic today: it isn't "latest."

"Hot Topics," by default (AND WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR OVER A YEAR
FOR A CHANGE ON THIS) is based on how many kudoes the original post got.
(Not, note, the topic in general and all replies, but simply the original post.) You
can change that with the drop down option box in the upper right corner, and
"(ISC)2 Board of Directors election" pops right up to the top. (WHICH WE
HAVE BEEN ASKKING FOR A YEAR TO HAVE MADE THE DEFAULT
SETTING.)

So, nobody is suppressing anything, except by designed intent.

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Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

> AppDefects (Contributor II) posted a new reply in Member Support on 06-27-2019

 

> Maybe it is
> time to enjoy life.  

 

Sounds like an excellent suggestion ...


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Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

> wimremes (Newcomer III) posted a new reply in Member Support on 06-27-2019 06:29

 

My, my, my. It appears *somebody* has micturated (I'll bet *that* gets by the pr0n filter) in Wim's cornflakes this morning ...

 

> Unfortunately there is a lot that I am
> not allowed to talk about. Which you obviously know.

 

Ah, the old "Oh, the stories I could tell!" attack ...

 

> 1) When I joined the board in 2012, you were the primary
> enforcer of a strict "the board speaks with one voice" policy.

 

That's *old* news. When has the Board *not* spoken with one voice?

 

> Today, any board member can speak their
> mind even on contentious issues, as JJs posts on LinkedIN prove.

 

Does she post on LinkeDin because nobody actually cares what gets posted on LinkeDin? I mean, why not here? (If she wanted anyone to actually read and respond to it?)

 

> Since then, the regional offices
> got their own management teams with their own P&L so they could execute locally
> based on their knowledge of the region.

 

Well, as long as everybody gets their own cost centre, we'll all good, right?

 

> Not before we got rid of that one
> contracting firm that did sales for ISC2 on a parasitic contract with almost 0
> incentive to benefit the membership and largely build on their existing
> relationship with management and board members (again, why term limits were
> important).

 

Hey, I hated them *long* before you did, and *I* had to deal more closely with them ...

 

> The org has never been more performant or invested more in its
> membership ($10M just last year

 

Ummm, *what*? I mean, isn't the whole budget supposed to be to benefit the membership *every* year?


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Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

> wimremes (Newcomer III) posted a new reply in Member Support on 06-27-2019 10:43

 

> The ability to commit $10M to
> developing content for the PDI is a testament to that.

 

Wait, what?

 

We spent $10,000,000 on those stupid PDI courses?

 

OK, everybody out of the pool. Any Board that mismanages that much money in that way needs to be completely turfed.


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Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election


@rslade wrote:
> AppDefects (Contributor II) posted a new reply in Member Support on 06-27-2019

> @amandavanceISC2 why is this topic being suppressed from showing on the forum
> boards for "Hot Topics" and "Latest Topics" ?

Oh, oh! I know the answer to this one! Pick me!

"Hot Topics," by default (AND WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR OVER A YEAR
FOR A CHANGE ON THIS) is based on how many kudoes the original post got.
(Not, note, the topic in general and all replies, but simply the original post.) You
can change that with the drop down option box in the upper right corner, and
"(ISC)2 Board of Directors election" pops right up to the top. (WHICH WE
HAVE BEEN ASKKING FOR A YEAR TO HAVE MADE THE DEFAULT
SETTING.)

So, nobody is suppressing anything, except by designed intent.

@rslade thanks for making me laugh today 🙂


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Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

> gthompson (Newcomer I) posted a new reply in Member Support on 06-27-2019 12:00

Anybody else notice that all the Board members are "Newcomers" here?

> As the co-chair of the
> Nominations committee this year, I can say confidently that we have acted in an
> honorable way

Oh, well, that's all right, then ...

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Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election


@rslade wrote:

> wimremes (Newcomer III) posted a new reply in Member Support on 06-27-2019 10:43

 

> The ability to commit $10M to
> developing content for the PDI is a testament to that.

 

Wait, what?

 

We spent $10,000,000 on those stupid PDI courses?

 

OK, everybody out of the pool. Any Board that mismanages that much money in that way needs to be completely turfed.


Release the corporate tax returns to members! Let's really talk numbers! Let your buddies in the CISSPforum members chew on that one.