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rslade
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Re: Security and Privacy in the Age of Drones

> Caute_cautim (Community Champion) posted a new reply in Industry News on

> If this is the case, we need to ensure we baseline, calculate and then measure
> to ensure we stay on the right side rather than fall into De-coherence.

Of course, as soon as you measure, the system collapses ...

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Caute_cautim
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Re: Security and Privacy in the Age of Drones

You must be doing the same course work.....:)
denbesten
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Re: Security and Privacy in the Age of Drones


@rslade wrote:
Doesn't the "right to bare arms" mean it's OK to shoot cell phones out of people's hands?...

The "right to bare arms" is about our right to wear short sleeve shirts. It has nothing to do with target practice. Smiley Happy 

Caute_cautim
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Re: Security and Privacy in the Age of Drones

This is a fierce debate, which is obviously is built into the US constitution.   We are having similar debates fiercely in Public Forums for changing gun legislation at the present time - the Gun Shop vs the Surgeon clearing after the 50 gunned down on 15 March 2019 in Christchurch with hollow point bullets.  Very graphic descriptions, coming out.  More debate bound to come out.  

 

This is not dissimilar to other debates going on about Lime and Wave scooters, being allowed on the pavements, whilst the blind fear their very lives, because they cannot hear or see the blighters approaching them.   However, many injuries, deaths does it take before the world from an ethical stance says enough is enough is enough.  The legislation is so far behind, it could take years, before they are aligned - because there is no policing, the current answer is put your hand out in front of you, on the basis, it is better to hit your hand, rather than your body, and do further untold damage. 

 

If we take Life & Safety to be the highest priority, then why don't we do something about it - or as previous conversation elsewhere, how many lives does it take to be lost before autonomous cars safety standards are raised, if we had the same approach towards flying - we would have never taken off, given the number of accidents, which have taken over the years.  It appears to be rather perverse.   Do we ever learn?

 

Regards

 

Caute_cautim

rslade
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Re: Security and Privacy in the Age of Drones

> Caute_cautim (Community Champion) posted a new reply in Industry News on

>    Do we ever learn?

So far, evidence mostly points to "no."

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CISOScott
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Re: Security and Privacy in the Age of Drones


@Caute_cautim wrote:

  Do we ever learn?


Until we remove the stigma surrounding mental health the answer will be no.

I often use the example below when describing the stigma around seeking help for yourself, a.k.a. mental health.

If you have a problem with your car and you do not know how to fix it, you go to someone who knows how to fix cars. Usually no one questions your judgment or "manhood". They say "You had a problem, went to an expert, received help and got your car fixed. You seem like a pretty smart person." However, if you go to someone who is an expert on and works on minds/brains instead of cars you are perceived as someone who is weak, weird, unstable, and unable to be strong. People will say "They are crazy. They are going to see a shrink. I don't want them working for me. They can't be trusted with secrets so no security clearance for them. etc.etc."

 

It is this stigma that keeps people from seeking help which leads to these tragedies. Perhaps if Hitler had went and sought mental help, World War 2 may not have happened. Instead he remained an angry person and sought to unleash his vengeance on those whom he thought had wronged him. Once given power, he unleashed his fury on the world.

 

You truly want to help the world? Increase access to mental health professionals. Do not partake in the stigma surrounding those that want to seek help. Stand up when you see someone ridiculing someone going to a mental health professional.

 

We don't call people weak or crazy when they call a plumber, an electrician, or an even a cyber security expert to address an area they do not possess the requisite experience to handle on their own, so let's not do that to those seeking the expert advice of those in the mental health profession.

Caute_cautim
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Re: Security and Privacy in the Age of Drones

@CISOScottExcellent response and a good point made too.  I wonder how much modern technology and every day distractions actually adds to this torment as well and whether it has actually been examined in terms of the amount of errors or incidents associated with it?

 

Regards

 

Caute_cautim