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OK, so I don't know why you guys should believe anything I post ...

Those aged 65 or older share "fake news" more than anybody ...

 

The actual study ...


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Re: OK, so I don't know why you guys should believe anything I post ...

@rsladeIt would be interesting to understand any bias the analysts/developers introduced into the classier itself without being aware this was happening at all.   Perhaps a study should be carried out on the actual analysts/developers themselves to ensure their particular cognitive bias was fully understood and subtracted from the study itself too. 

 

There could be other factors as well, how dependent are the participants on the Internet based news and sources, how did they gain sufficient confidence and trust that they were accurate in the first place.

 

Regards

 

PS Respectively, I have no information as whether or not you are over 65 yourself.....  Tongue in cheek.


@rslade wrote:

Those aged 65 or older share "fake news" more than anybody ...

 

The actual study ...


 

Caute_cautim

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Re: OK, so I don't know why you guys should believe anything I post ...

 

 

I've not checked this survey, but I can say that it all boils down to the users'  awareness (from exposure) and attitude.

 

Take 3 actual scenarios, the scope being my family & friends, limited to WhatsApp communication. We'll look at the age group and consider their occupation, and relate this to the above.

 

Case 1

My mum tends to forward ALL messages she gets to ALL others, so I told her that while it's okay if they're jokes, she should otherwise 1st check their credibility.

 

Results: With Age Group: > 60 & Occupation: Non-IT, I had Awareness: Absent & Attitude: Wrong

Aftermath: She only sends me jokes nowadays, & I doubt her other contacts still don't receive her forwards.

 

 

Case 2

A friend who's in a WhatsApp group sends out a hell of a lot of forwards, which pretty often, are hoaxes. It came as a surprise coz he's in IT. When I reprimanded him, he says he'l fully aware of the probability, but sends out the messages nonetheless.

Results: With Age Group: < 40 & Occupation: IT, I had Awareness: Adequate & Attitude: Wrong

Aftermath:  His forwards continue, but I don't pay attention to them --- unless they're about the weather.

 

Case 3

Someone in WhatsApp group related to IT Security, wherein someone recently sent a message to ask about the possibility of a hoax --- after which I sent him a rather blunt response, shown in the picture below.

Results: With Age Group: < 30 & Occupation: IT Security, I had Awareness: Inadequate & Attitude: Right

AftermathHe left the group.

 

 

WhatsApp.png

 

 

@rslade, if you want to participate in this, you'll have to provide your age... Man Wink

 

 

 

 

Shannon D'Cruz,
CISM, CISSP

www.linkedin.com/in/shannondcruz
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Re: OK, so I don't know why you guys should believe anything I post ...

 

Correction to my earlier post: For Case 1, Attitude: Unknown, and for Case 3, Attitude: Wrong

 

 

 

Shannon D'Cruz,
CISM, CISSP

www.linkedin.com/in/shannondcruz
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Re: OK, so I don't know why you guys should believe anything I post ...

> Shannon (Contributor III) mentioned you in a post! Join the conversation below:

>          @rslade, if you want to participate in this, you'll have to provide
> your age...

I was born old ...

(... and I haven't got white hair just because I work in security ...)


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Re: OK, so I don't know why you guys should believe anything I post ...

Oh my. This dredges up memories of my dad.  After mom died we kids pooled our resources and got him tech so that he could keep up with us and the grands. Phones are obsolete as you know.  Everything he either read, got in email or had in his FB wall was forwarded on because, as you know, if it was on Al Gore's wonderful internet it had to be truth (Dad was a hard core liberal so he and AL were best buds).  No amount of education would change his activities. Sadly, I wish he was still here to flood my inbox with useless crap.

 

Who determines what is truth?  You have those who believe that we are all going to be frozen bricks in 5 years and the opposite that we are minutes away from frying up from the sun in global warming.  YouGOV, cited in the article as being the main source of polling data, could have a bias towards it's data gathering, the technology used to analyze that data and the delivery of that data.  Then how is that information interpreted once it is delivered? 

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Re: OK, so I don't know why you guys should believe anything I post ...

 


@Flyslinger2 wrote:

Oh my. This dredges up memories of my dad. 


You just reminded me that my Dad could have been the 4th unwitting participant here. He was content using his phone just to make calls & send out SMS --- back then, it was meant to do little more than that. Towards the end of his career, the organization changed the corporate devices to those with a touch-screen, but he didn't hide the fact that he wasn't too happy with that.

 

Once he retired, we 'forced' a smartphone on him, and now, it's some consolation that he's using WhatsApp and Email on the device. Nonetheless, he's never taken to social media & messaging, and always prefers to call / actually talk rather than avail of all that.

 

So including him in this, the results would be :

 

Case 1

Age group: > 60 Occupation: Non-IT 

Awareness: Absent Attitude: Unknown

 

Case 2

Age group: > 60 Occupation: Non-IT

Awareness: Limited Attitude: Right

 

Case 3

Age group: < 40 Occupation: IT 

Awareness: Adequate Attitude: Wrong

 

Case 4

Age group: < 30 Occupation: IT

Awareness: Inadequate Attitude: Right

 

No doubt the 'survey' population was microscopic, but I'll say that the subjects' age isn't of much significance; it's their attitude --- which can be influenced by multiple factors --- that ultimately matters.

 

 

Shannon D'Cruz,
CISM, CISSP

www.linkedin.com/in/shannondcruz
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Re: OK, so I don't know why you guys should believe anything I post ...

@rslade @Shannon

Unfortunately, I can attest to Rob being over 50 but under 90.....you see he and I were both born older than dirt and although I would like to blame my white hair on Security, I can't.

 

I have to agree that most "older.....not just over 65" people to pass fake news/information along.  Although lately I am seeing some mid- 40ish folk pass some stupid stuff around on the internet.  I especially like the ones for free trips for Disney if you cut and paste on the Internet or the Costco vouchers.

 

I believe people forget, and they see something that is too good to be true and they want to share.

 

One wonders if the younger generation who seem to be more technically aware will fall into the same traps....oh wait, they do something called "Sexting".

 

It's a matter of education and repeat education, just like grade school when fractions (hey do they still teach those) were repeated through almost every grade.

 

Just my thoughts on an oh too early Monday morning

 

Diana

 

PS: Rob, remember I was trying to be nice with the over 50.

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Re: OK, so I don't know why you guys should believe anything I post ...


@dcontesti wrote:

 

Unfortunately, I can attest to Rob being over 50 but under 90.....you see he and I were both born older than dirt and although I would like to blame my white hair on Security, I can't.

 

 


 

 

If hair color was among the survey criteria, there'd have been 2 more participants...   Man Wink  

 

 

 

Shannon D'Cruz,
CISM, CISSP

www.linkedin.com/in/shannondcruz
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Re: OK, so I don't know why you guys should believe anything I post ...

> Flyslinger2 (Contributor II) posted a new reply in Industry News on 01-13-2019

> ... Oh my. This dredges up memories of my dad.

Well, since this thread has devolved into family reminiscences ...

You all realize that if you *ever* fix *anything* for *any* of your relatives, you are thereafter required to be free technical support for it for the rest of your life ...

(When you are a security maven, your friends and family are there to embarrass you.  There was the time my Mom walked into the largest security conference in Vancouver and admitted that she had just responded to a phishing attack ...)


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