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Re: OK, *now* we're in trouble ...

 

Update: I made an assumption about the booth that I earlier mentioned; as per my colleagues, once in you're exposed to Acetic acid (in aerosol form) to disinfect you, & there's no UV --- the blue lights were for show.

 

(I don't know how effective this is; a colleague who experienced it elsewhere gave me a review --- he said it makes him reek of vinegar.)

 

I was hoping to get info on how this really works, but there's no one at the entrance these days; it seems that 'PoC' is over, & the booth's been left as a showpiece.

 

Well, it was all free, so I guess I shouldn't be expecting much anyways...

 

 

Shannon D'Cruz,
CISM, CISSP

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Reminiscent of the ones that Meico installed and removed, but with special effects added.  

 

My employer is going gaga over Thermal cameras at employee entrances.  Business decision that the price (25-40K USD) is will be more than offset by being permitted to open the doors sooner.

 

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I particularly like the "Mask" line, because of what it says about the irrationality of most people's decisions about mask wearing ...


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@Shannon wrote:

 

Update: I made an assumption about the booth that I earlier mentioned; as per my colleagues, once in you're exposed to Acetic acid (in aerosol form) to disinfect you, & there's no UV --- the blue lights were for show.

 

(I don't know how effective this is; a colleague who experienced it elsewhere gave me a review --- he said it makes him reek of vinegar.)


As I've mentioned elsewhere, I can't think of any mist. spray, or fog that would be very effective against SARS-CoV-2 without also being dangerous to people.  The acetic acid idea is interesting.  It would attack the fat envelope, just not very effectively.  (Using vapour rather than aerosol might make it more effective, but it would also definitely make you all smell like fish and chips.)

 


Well, it was all free, so I guess I shouldn't be expecting much anyways...

As has been said, you get what you pay for ...


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@denbesten wrote:

My employer is going gaga over Thermal cameras at employee entrances.  Business decision that the price (25-40K USD) is will be more than offset by being permitted to open the doors sooner.


Oi!  $40,000?  Knowing that they have at least a 25% false negative rate at the best of times, and require some fairly skilled operators, and that you can, if you are infected and have a fever and want to contaminate your workplace in revenge, simply smear your face with hand sanitiser in order to get past them? ...


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I don’t know whether it properly belongs with law or ethics, but it certainly belongs in that domain.

 

One thing that has horrified me, possibly above all others in this awful crisis, is the extreme and rapid rise of overt and blatant racist physical attacks and misbehaviour. It has been seen in many ways: verbal harassment on the street, physical attacks on transit, racist graffiti, all the way up to shunning migrants and the closing of borders where no real need exists.

 

It is, possibly, because I am Canadian that I find it so deeply disturbing. Canada is not, unfortunately, immune to racism, but we do have, as a national characteristic, tolerance-to-the-point-of-vice. We are, much more than the United States, a cosmopolitan and polyglot society. Where Americans talk about the “melting pot,” where everyone comes to the US and becomes American, Canada talks of the cultural mosaic, where everyone comes to Canada and contributes something from their point of origin. There is a national joke that the definition of a Canadian is a DP with seniority. For those not from Canada I have to explain that DP stands for “displaced person,” an old term (dating from the two world wars) for refugee, but also that DP is, itself, a racist term. Thus the joke is not just about the demographic composition of the country (every Canadian is a DP: even the First Nations peoples came here from somewhere else [most likely Siberia]), but is also a sly dig at racism itself (and a slightly more overt self-mockery of Canadians who may think they are above, or immune to, racism). (Canadian jokes do tend to be complex and layered. Sorry.)

 

The Floyd/Black Lives Matter protests may relate to whatever cultural forces are behind the racism. As previously noted, racial bias in law enforcement is nothing new, and is widely known and acknowledged, although mostly without being effectively addressed. There have been other deaths, and other protests. Colin Kaepernick had his own, completely non-violent, protest for many years. But society seems to have been ready, at this point, to take a more serious look at the issue. It will not be fixed overnight, but it would be heartening if some meaningful change came out of this terrible mess.


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As one of those likely to be "culled" by CoVID-19 (I'm old, male, fat, and have diabetes and high blood pressure), this article kind of resonated:

 

I'm over 60. Stop talking about coronavirus 'culling' me

 

 


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Right.

 

This has, apparently, been a very high-stress time for pretty much all of us. So, herewith, hopefully some stress relief, of different types.

 

For those wanting ten minutes of calm, the Uceli Quartet performs Puccini at Barcelona's Gran Teatre del Liceu for an audience of 2,292 plants during a "concert" created by Spanish artist Eugenio Ampudia. (It's actually a little over nine minutes long, and the first minute and a half is an introduction in Spanish, so ...) Described in words it sounds odd, but it's oddly beautiful.

 

A toddler gives three minutes of supposed marital advice, that is relevant to all the perceived slights and shortcomings that we are all encountering during the pandemic.

 

And, since talking with babies is always good stress relief (2 min.) ...


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You know how sometimes there is this sign that makes you wonder, "What happened here that made someone think this sign was necessary ..."

 

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Hi @rslade    Its about time we changed this track to Be Aware of 5G Cell Tower - you are in a Wireless environment - run for the hills, or don your Faraday cage suit.  Given the total controversy and FUD being circulated via various absolutely mad medical researchers and people believing it.

 

Add to the mix COVID-19 and you have people running around, changing house location, out in the country, but someone tell them there is an Ionosphere above their heads, which is used to bounce long distance radio signals every day.   Plus have they checked their recent purchases for IoT embedded devices.

 

The world has gone mad.

 

Regards

 

Caute_cautim

 

 

 

 

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