Japan wants to write an anti-virus virus ...

[rslade]

Japan's Defense Ministry wants to build (oh, sorry, wants to get other people to build) a virus which can be used for defensive computer security.

Those who fail to learn the lessons of computer history are doomed to buy it again--repackaged. - Slade's Law of Computer History

It's been tried. It's failed.

Den Zuk was created to wipe out BRAIN, and did more damage than BRAIN. That was back in 1987, I think. Many other viruses were written to wipe out other viruses: just about all did more damage than the originals.

[小熊慶一郎]

I agree.  Identifying the real source would be impossible in a realistic time frame.

This is just my guess, but the idea might be to put the virus in the files on the honeypot so the attacker retrieve the file and be infected somehow.

[rslade]

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@Kempy wrote:
Finland already did this, it is called Linux 👌

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OK, since I'm back on, I gave you a kudo  🙂

[Caute_cautim]

Are you sure its not this guy again? https://www.wired.co.uk/article/japanese-virus

Regards

Caute_cautim

[rslade]

> MikeGlassman (Newcomer III) posted a new reply in Industry News on 05-04-2019

> I'd be interested to know how they would know who sent the Virus etc in the
> first place, in order to know who to attack back.

Attribution, still a major problem ...

> What if the
> system thought it was being attacked and it was itself, and it attacked itself
> back.

I recall an IRC transcript that had some wannabe annoying one of the old guard,
and the elder finally convinced the kid to attack 127.0.0.1.

(There's no place like 127.0.0.1 ...)

> Now that would be fun to watch.

It was ...

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[Caute_cautim]

This is no different from the Japanese attempt to send long distance balloons into the jet streams towards USA during WWII, in an attempt to incapacitate the nations war machine at the time.  However, they were successful, but they were not informed of this success at the time, as many payloads landed in rural areas, but not in the main metropolis.

Do not under estimate their abilities, they may be more successful, than you think.

Regards

Caute-cautim

[Ingo]

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@Caute_cautim wrote:

Do not under estimate their abilities, they may be more successful, than you think.

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Hopefully not.

German politicians currently also discuss "hack back" laws. But the politicians leading the debate do not have a clue of network/software engineering not to mention cyber security.

It's always the same. And in the end we have to clean up the mess...

[Caute_cautim]

@IngoExactly, like this example:  https://www.itnews.com.au/news/massive-data-breach-costs-valuer-landmark-white-7m-524716?eid=1&edate...

Someone has to recover the situation at cost, and heads may roll, or the company folds entirely.

Regards

Caute_cautim

[Ingo]

Unfortunately heads roll very seldom in politics for doing damage to people or businesses.

[Caute_cautim]

It really depends on how significant it is - normally if there is a large element of Safety of Lives or Health issues, something is done by peer pressure internationally or at least seen to be done, until the next occurrence.  Rather like the recent Russian Aircraft crash after a communications failure apparently - an investigation is under way for the loss of 41 lives - but humans being what they are attempted to remove their personnel items, which they felt were more important than their own lives.

Perhaps we are becoming immune to these daily occurrences?

Regards

Caute_cautim

[MikeGlassman]

I do not thing "we" are becoming immune.

I think that governments are becoming less caring, as long as it does not directly effect them, and this non-caring attitude, or the attitude of finding someone lower in line to hit for it, will continue.

This, for Japan, is a very normal occurrence. If it is possible to blame someone else, they will.