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Early_Adopter
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It Begins…

There looks to be a lot of bad news to come for OpenAi:

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-67458603
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Early_Adopter
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@denbersen good spot. If you think about it if MS can get the people they can build their own LLM from scratch without the potential legal contagion from OpenAI’s methods.
Caute_cautim
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@Early_Adopter    You mean with Ethics and Governance - a clean slate.....  Well that will be different.

 

Regards

 

Caute_Cautim

Early_Adopter
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I’ve been to many seminars where MS folk wax lyrical on just this point…

I have some observations.

It’s not seemingly always easy for BoDs to get it right here, because of complexity but also the make-up - many folk carry political spectrum disorders an they are fighting through things they should be honest arbiters of. “Sorry the shareholders/members/patrons didn’t want a moon circus…? Sorry that’s what they got! It’s a fantastic moon circus… what do you mean it doesn’t serve any purpose … right buddy, you are designated existential idea logical enemy! Let’s fight running dog!”

If Microsoft do get the Ethics and Governance right - historically they have things like the browser wars to inform them - it will be good.

However for them to move so quickly there must have been some considerable though on strategy and tactics here - all the best M&As should be surprises - and they must be aware of how much reliance they have on something they own 49% of.

Not saying they can’t get it right - but it’s going to be a bit… tricky.
Caute_cautim
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@Early_Adopter    It could be the end of ChatGPT unless it is taken up by the hacking community and aimed at organisations directly and managed from the Dark Web....   Could be very interesting indeed.

 

ChatGPT banned from all organisations as its gone rogue??

 

Regards

 

Caute_Cautim

Caute_cautim
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@Early_Adopter   They may wax lyrical, but the proof is in the pudding and non liability clauses.

 

Regards

 

Caute_Cautim

Early_Adopter
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@Caute_cautim

“I promise to pay the bearer nothing at all and will shortly be going on a long holiday to somewhere nice.” -Douglas Adams, in relation to the Altarian Dollar.

There’s a lot of fluidity here and well it’s a bit like the Starship hot separation - as long as the second stage is OK while regrettable if the booster were to explode with all the liability… why wouldn’t that be serendipitously for the greater good? After all it will be much easier for the aggrieved authors and slighted copyright holders to sue the unresisting wreckage… even if the returns are not so good.
denbesten
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@Caute_cautim wrote:

 non liability clauses.


Are you referring to non-compete clauses?  They are unenforceable in California.

 

MS may have just pulled off a masterstroke.  Continue using ChatGPT until their own product is ready and then leave OpenAI, along with its liabilities.

 

And, I am sure their product will be have just enough data protection/segregation to entice their enterprise customers to upgrade to an even more expensive M365 subscription.

Early_Adopter
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@denbesten difficult to offer a firm opinion up on the internet. But everyone can see how vulnerable OpenAI is regards to their training process, it’s possible that after lawsuits what’s left will be owned by plaintiffs.

Hypothetically, in the Star Trek mirror universe…

If MS wanted to be affected as little as possible by that rescuing the former CEO and disgruntled employees from the board whilst publicly saying “We need a strong, happy open AI” gives them the chance to be “shocked!” Once/if it turns out there were issues in sourcing training data etc. Meanwhile new employees build new LLM well learning from all past mistakes and successes.
denbesten
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It ends....

 

“We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam Altman to return to OpenAI as CEO with a new initial board,” the company said.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/22/tech/openai-altman-returns-hnk-intl/index.html

 

Early_Adopter
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@denbesten

Yes, it seems “Boomerang” Sam has gone back to OpenAI after a brief stint at MS…

“Wow those ares some tight NDA trousers!” …”So”… “Please have all my RSUs you put in for five years vest!”

“Very good Sir…And the old board…? “

“Nothing for now, but when they get comfortable again, feed to those lazy crocodiles with blunt teeth… “

It’s a shame it was looking like it had potential to generate much more insight.