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? Utility of Acclaim Certification Badges ?

Has anyone here had feedback from clients, customers, HR offices, or potential hiring officials that they used the Acclaim badge to verify your certification? 

 

I understand how to obtain the badge, and how to place it on web sites, profiles, etc. and how anyone clicking on it is taken to the Acclaim site for more details of the verified certification.

 

I am curious if anyone has experienced feedback that people outside of (ISC)2 are actually using it for the intended purpose.

 

Thanks,

 

 

Dr. D. Cragin Shelton, CISSP
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Re: Utility of Acclaim Certification Badges?

> CraginS (Contributor II) posted a new topic in Certifications on 09-10-2018

> Has anyone here had feedback from clients, customers, HR offices, or potential
> hiring officials that they used the Acclaim badge to verify your
> certification?

Enter Bluebottle in doublet made from Mum's old CISSP certificate! Waits for
audience Acclaim!

Not a sausage ...




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Re: ? Utility of Acclaim Certification Badges ?

 

 https://www.youtube.com/embed/K8E_zMLCRNg

 

Dr. D. Cragin Shelton, CISSP
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Re: Utility of Acclaim Certification Badges?

Not the first time round, but though factually incorrect* ‘Jet-Propelled Guided NAAFI’ was a favourite from Bosnia.

 

It has been bought up to date since:

 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e_9XtCdpqaU

 

*It is of course Stella Artois rather than tea.

 

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Re: ? Utility of Acclaim Certification Badges ?

@CraginS wrote:

Has anyone here had feedback from clients, customers, HR offices, or potential hiring officials that they used the Acclaim badge to verify your certification? 

  


I've not seen that being used yet; all those who contacted me after seeing my resume requested me to provide validation links for my certifications, whereupon I thought it best not to ask them to check my acclaim badges...

 

 

Shannon D'Cruz,
CISM, CISSP

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Re: ? Utility of Acclaim Certification Badges ?

HI I am MOHAN BHUPAL MANAPOTI, CISA, CISM  and I am planning to take the exam for the CISSP however

regarding the validation of these Difficult and prestigious  Information Security Certificates is that there should be as display of the FULL list of certified members on the ISC2, ISACA web sites with more simpler inputs required for verification of the claimed badges.

 

I know that many FAKE security professionals get into security jobs and positions and then acquire security knowledge and real experiences on the job and thrive because the H.R does not know how to validate the claimed Certificates.

 

These FAKE certificate holders as they move up the Security career in their job or into another where again they will not be asked / checked on their certificates as these FAKES move up the information Security ladder  also unfortunately ensure that none of the Real Certificate holders are hired as they are scared are apprehensive that these real Security professionals should be a threat to their jobs and are afraid that these real security professionals may replace them eventually replace them.

 

my boss is such a fake and even though I was already working as a I.S manager in an company acquired by his company does not want me in his team for the above state fears and moving in the management to law me off.

 

please see how holding REAL Certificate obstructs the persons Security careers we don't get hired , we don't get accepted in the security team and we may be layed off    yes because of the REAL Certificate.

 

now I am sure that there are many FAKE resumes claiming these great prestigious Certificates and I am sure the many REAL Security Professionals are deprived of the fair chance getting what they deserve.

 

I beg that the web sites should just display the list of certificate holders with other information for the members login and Company H.R user id for simple verification of these certificates before providing employment.

what privacy is lost to say a REAL CISSP holder is a REAL CISSP holder I don't see any do you ? please reply to ease my burden.

 

Thanks

 

mohan bhupal manapoti, CISA, CISM.

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Re: ? Utility of Acclaim Certification Badges ?

@MohanBhupalM I would doubt that many people want their names publicised in an involuntary way, especially not just because they hold an ISC2 or other certification. Some people are ok with it, many are not, personally I’m ambivalent.

 

Validation is pretty easy, and should well within the capabilities of a HR professional:

 

https://webportal.isc2.org/custom/certificationverification.aspx

 

I don’t share your concern about about folks getting a role because of HRs inability to request a name and number and use a webform, in fact my concern would be for the HR team that couldn’t do this. Long term there are possibilities to verify certifications and qualifications, but if I did find a cabal of uncertified CISOs operating a conspiracy to keep me and my Security+ down well I might want to study it, who knows there might be a book, or at least a funny presentation in it?

 

On a serious note again, If someone is falsely claiming ISC2 certification then that would be a breach of the ISC2 Code of Ethics, there is more on this here:

 

 https://www.isc2.org/Ethics

 

It should be noted that whatever the circumstances ISC2 are expected to behave inline with the code of ethics, and public posts seeking to leverage the organisation as a tool in a workplace dispute would not I feel be considered appropriate or professional.

 

My advice would be to work within what ever grievance reporting structure is provided by your employer and keep separate any report(which I’d suggest verifiying you have hard and evidence of before making it discretely) of someone breaching the ISC2 Code of Ethics from what sounds like a regretable situation.

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Re: ? Utility of Acclaim Certification Badges ?

@MohanBhupalM, organizations offering certifications & certificates --- including (ISC)2 & ISACA --- also include a means to validate these, usually on their site. All that's required is entering information such as a membership ID & last name.

 

What you've described is the situation where you work, so your suggestion --- which may go against privacy expectations --- isn't likely to make much of a difference. It would make more sense to talk to your HR about their checks...

 

 

Shannon D'Cruz,
CISM, CISSP

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Re: ? Utility of Acclaim Certification Badges?

> MohanBhupalM (Viewer) posted a new reply in Certifications on 11-02-2018 09:06 AM in the (ISC)² Community :

> I know that many FAKE security professionals get into security jobs and

> Certificates.   These FAKE certificate holders as they move up the Security

> checked on their certificates as these FAKES move up the information

> them.   my boss is such a fake and even though I was already working as a

> sure that there are many FAKE resumes claiming these great prestigious

Is this a FAKE posting?

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Re: ? Utility of Acclaim Certification Badges ?

@MohanBhupalM wrote:

 display of the FULL list of certified members on the ISC2, ISACA web sites

Such a list would facilitate abuse by name-doppelgangers.  Once you earn your cert anyone else that shares your name could plausibly claim to have the cert. The current (ISC)² interface (ugly as it may be) mitigates much of this risk by requiring you to provide a non-public piece of information (i.e. your member number).  

 

I know that many FAKE security professionals get into security jobs and positions and then acquire security knowledge and real experiences on the job and thrive because the H.R does not know how to validate the claimed Certificates.

There is nothing wrong with growing into a job by acquiring knowledge and experience, or even being hired into a job for which one is not qualified.  However, any evidence of falsified material facts (e.g. an unearned cert or degree on a resume) should be reported to H.R. because that is grounds for termination in most companies.