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Community Champion

Then Why Bother?

I am miffed by all of the negativity, particularly from ISC2 certified professionals. If your experience is so awful as a certified professional, and you now think so little of your colleagues in their profession, then why not find something else to do? Why not make it a goal to be happy in your life and career?
As a certified professional, aspiring candidates are seeking your mentoring. Yet, too many whiners are availing themselves. Try offering something positive once in a while.

Lamont Robertson
M.S., M.A., CISSP, CISM, CISA, CRISC, CDPSE, MCSE
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Newcomer II

Re: Then Why Bother?

Well said. Certification, like life, is what you make of it.
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Newcomer III

Re: Then Why Bother?

Hello... I can see your point about the negativity, however, I can also see the other side of the coin so to speak as well. One would think that by buying the books and doing exam quizzes enough information and knowledge would be garnered to pass the exam and thus sit atop mount Olympus with the best of the best if you will. My current position has me working at a large enterprise covering 4 time zones and 35,000 users. My co-workers are constantly complaining about the time required to study and learn and prepare for the CISSP and other exams. Some individuals often feel that there should be allowances made at work for them to collaborate on their studies and take a break from their jobs to accomplish this. The world has changed and the consensus is that their time off should be spent doing things that make them happy and not used to further their knowledge of the job. For many the exam is nothing more than an English test. I agree with you on many issues and concerns you brought to light. If one has a tea or coffee cup which is already full how can any more be added. Sacrifice, even for the benefit of self has taken a back seat to  immediate self-gratification. When is the last time you heard people talking about their careers instead of their jobs. I personally like the challenge and frustration factor of learning and knowing new things and being able to solve issues and provide answers to concerns. Any thoughts?

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Community Champion

Re: Then Why Bother?

100% agree.

 

I think it’s important for people to understand the scope of ISC2’s certifications, and to be nurturing to people in the community. “Train in rather than select out” should be a mantra.

 

If you want ISC2 certification to make you into a 1337 h4x0r then you’ve missed the point(and should have been looking at SANS/GIAC, OSCP etc), conversely anyone passing themselves off as a deep authority on the strength of CISSP is not doing really doing the right thing.

 

Do we want to limit the size of the pie, or make the pie big enough for everyone?(they still need to handle the questions, but the younger folks are smarter than we were in our day)

 

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Community Champion

Re: Then Why Bother?

If this test for “most” people were just an English test, then I’d agree with the chronic complainers that we are all just wasting our time here. I did not arrive at that opinion. I thought that the CISSP exam was a measure of one’s ability to critically think in the Information Security profession. If one is beset with work responsibilities and cannot commit the time to study, then I failed at concluding that ISC2 should take such factors into consideration. 

 

I have absolutely NO interest in this exam being “easy” or convenient. Again, if it were considered easy, the I would have NEVER bothered.

 

 

Lamont Robertson
M.S., M.A., CISSP, CISM, CISA, CRISC, CDPSE, MCSE