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Newcomer II

Re: Education never-ending

I agree! Well said.

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Contributor III

Re: Education never-ending

"This logic is also why I have a personal objection to allowing volunteer work in running an (ISC)2, ISSA, or INCOSE chapter to count as CPE. This practice smells more like a bribe to help maintain chapters than actual education."

 

Sorry, I disagree with this.

 

This is about providing leadership, something we need both in our jobs and in the larger infosec community.  ISACA also provides CPEs for their certs if you are a chapter leader.  No one should look at CPEs as "bribery", but sadly, we have many people, who because they aren't doing the activities they should to get CPEs, that sometimes you need to use a carrot/stick method.

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Michael Brown, CISSP, HCISPP, CISA, CISM, CGEIT, CRISC, GSLC, GSTRT, ISSA Fellow
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Newcomer II

Re: Education never-ending

As a professional educator, I tell my students "learning is lifelong and your education is something that no one can take away from you!"

 

Thanks,

 

Warren Mack, Ph.D., CISSP

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Community Champion

Re: Education never-ending

@CraginS  Sorry I disagree with you on earning CPEs for running a chapter, et al.  I don't see it as a bribe but rather an opportunity help develop skills other than Security (which I believe have been targeted as Group B).  Running a chapter, etc., allows one to develop soft skills such as budgeting, coordination, presentation skills, working with external sources to arrange meetings, etc. which as all professionals we should be doing.  So I see no problem with allowing up to 10 CPEs a year for something like this.

 

Also participating in the meetings themselves can aid one with interpersonal skills (also soft skills) but provide a venue to learn about new methods of working or new technologies.

 

I have been learning new things since the day I entered Security (one of the reasons, I like being in Security)...it challenges me daily.

 

Regards

 

Diana

 

 

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Re: Education never-ending

> dcontesti (Newcomer III) posted a new reply in Certifications on 11-02-2018 06:22 PM in the (ISC)² Community :

> @CraginS  Sorry I disagree with you

Fight! Fight! 🙂

>   I don't see it as a bribe but rather an opportunity help develop
> skills other than Security (which I believe have been targeted as Group
> B).

I'm on Diana's side. Security management is a big part of security, and, if you aren't a manager, helping out with a chapter is a big opportunity to learn. (If you *are* a manager, helping out with a chapter is a good opportunity to learn a different environment. Always valuable.)

We have some supporting experience of this in the Vancouver Chapter. A few years ago we started encouraging our student members to help out in the executive. (Not just token jobs, either: real positions.) We got great benefit from their energy, but they also got terrific experience (and contacts). So much so that at least one college now considers being on our exec to be valid "work experience" in support of their academic program.

>   I have been learning new
> things since the day I entered Security (one of the reasons, I like being in
> Security)...it challenges me daily.

Amen and amen.

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