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Re: A little help for an aspiring Information Security professional? :)

@Steve-Wilme Tried to take a look but you need to make an account and everything just to download it, and just not in the mood to create yet another account for a simple download.

 

 

John-

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Re: A little help for an aspiring Information Security professional? :)

Had to grab a quick flight, not the best time, but we have to do what we have to do. Back home and getting caught up.

 

I think you are right that I would have thought more people would have joined in on this. I think a lot of the jobs that are being let go are more around hospitality and travel. Information security is a core item that should not be affected too much from what is going on. I think interviewing and the such might be a little harder now but if a company finds a really good candidate I am hoping they would not them them slip away because of all this.

 

As they say, good people are hard to find!

 

John-

 

Ps. I would have thought WFH would have more people on here.. idk...

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Re: A little help for an aspiring Information Security professional? :)

@Steve-Wilme 

 

I tried downloading it, but it gave me an error saying that I did not have the right to view the content after I "purchased" it for $0. Any idea what might have gone wrong?

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Re: A little help for an aspiring Information Security professional? :)

@JKWiniger

 

Yeah, it may be more difficult under the current circumstances and afterwards for quite a while. Right now I find myself happy to even have a job... I read every day how people are losing our jobs. And you are right, it should not affect Information Security per se, but considering that this profession usually constitutes one of the cost centers in a business, less revenue (if any) means less spending on the cost centers... This is the time when many things must be pushed back. The backbone of Information Security needs to function, naturally but everything else will likely be suspended for a while...

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Re: A little help for an aspiring Information Security professional? :)

@Belg For the longest time IT in general was seen as a black hole, all cost no profit, but then companies started implemented charge back systems and then moved to the cloud. I see the cloud as a great thing for IT because everything requires a subscription which can be directly tied back to a business group. This greatly reduces the IT black hole, and when the charge back model was used IT actually became a profit center. I don't know if security would just ride that wave or if we would need something else.

 

I have seen people in security saying they have been played off and it make me wonder if it's time for security it start requiring contracts and retainers! Once enough laws have been passed we will not be an option but rather a requirement, and if you want to keep me I need reassurance you will not cut me because there are a lot of other companies who need and want me..

 

Just a thought..

 

John-

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Re: A little help for an aspiring Information Security professional? :)

@JKWiniger 

 

That would be the idea, yes. But, as usual, some business will take heed and some will not 🙂

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Re: A little help for an aspiring Information Security professional? :)

@Belg I am just thinking of starting a thread and call it self discovery. I think is might help myself and well everyone and become something. It would almost turn into a tree.

 

Do you like to build computers and networks, or write programs that run on them?

 

This question is more about are you ops or dev and then we drill down from their..

 

thoughts?

 

John-

 

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Re: A little help for an aspiring Information Security professional? :)

@JKWiniger 

 

Here is the thing. It's not about what I like but what I CAN do at this point 🙂 Let's put it this way: I understand much more than I've ever had a chance to do. I can set up a network, but I haven't had a chance to do that much. I understand how to build a computer from parts, and I will easily get a hang of it, but I've rarely done in it real life. I have an aptitude for learning programming languages, and I can take very little time to learn and start thinking in terms of that language for solving problems, BUT I'm not going to just start learning programming languages at random. I really want to start leaning Python, but even in learning you need some guidance as far as how you need to use it and for what. So, at this point I'm more Ops than Dev, but I have always believed that one needs to be able to do both to succeed. For example, I don't believe that one has business talking about firewall rules and using them to mitigate risks if he or she does not actually understand how to write those rules. That may be an extreme position that is actually holding me back, and I may need to try and scale down my expectations of myself, but, on the other hand, it is very difficult to lower that bar for myself.

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Re: A little help for an aspiring Information Security professional? :)

@Belg Makes perfect sense. What I was getting at is that in time is can get overwhelming trying to learn and keep up with everything. To me Ops vs Dev seems to be the first choice a lot of people make when deciding what path to go down and what to learn. I have programed in the past but it's not really my thing, I would much rather design systems. With networking I get board dealing with routing tables so I don't focus on it. I do plan on learning python just because it would be helpful if I need to dig into something, but I have no plans to be a programmer. And I know what you mean about need a reason to learn something. I tried to learn linux a few times but it wasn't until I had a few programs that I had to run on linux that I actually had a reason to dig in and learn it. One of the problems I think a lot of places face is just what you said, people making decisioned without really understanding what they are doing. I think I am also reflecting a bit on how I have been told by recruiters that I can do anything I want, and then the question comes back as to what do I really want to be doing, and there isn't really a job where you can just do everything. Well not in a bigger company, smaller ones yes, but there are pros and cons to both options.

 

John-

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Re: A little help for an aspiring Information Security professional? :)

@JKWiniger 

 

There are indeed benefits to both, but, at least right now, I'm looking more into a smaller company. The reason being is that you get exposed into everything, you get to participate, for example, in designing policy, then in helping build a system that supports that policy, and then in monitoring this system at work. On the other hand, the company takes a big risk in letting itself be your playground. However, smaller companies do take bigger risks anyway. It comes to balance between the breadth and depth of knowledge, and that is something very difficult for me achieve, because I subconsciously try not to limit myself, lol.