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    <title>topic Tracking scammers in Tech Talk</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi all;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; I had a question.&amp;nbsp; Everybody knows that scammers abound on the Internet, and that they rely on International borders for protection.&amp;nbsp; Every scammer I have run into has used G-Mail, or some other "free" mail site to run their operation.&amp;nbsp; Sure, we can report them to Google, but that just means that account gets shut down and they open another.&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp; I recently got a scam mail to help move 15 million out of Syria in return for 10%.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The email included an image of his&amp;nbsp; passport (so I know it's real).&amp;nbsp; I was going to bait the guy, and was thinking of sending a fake ID in return (just to be fair) but realized that my fake ID might be used as a basis for another scam.&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp; This got me thinking.&amp;nbsp; Sure, we can shut down an account,&amp;nbsp; but identifying the components of a scam could flag an account before it accomplishes its intent.&amp;nbsp; For example, if the image used for ID by the scammer was added to a watch list, any account sending that image would be known as a scammer.&amp;nbsp; Google has image analysis capability,&amp;nbsp; so it seems that even attempts to thwart the system by changing a couple pixels each time could be thwarted.&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Naturally, you cannot contact anybody at Google to suggest this.&amp;nbsp; Another thing that might be nice is if Google (and other providers) provided a way to let security professionals send a "poison pill" image that could be tracked to identify where it went to identify networks used by scammers. (EG, I could generate a fake ID on Google with a watermarked image that Google could track).&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;Anyway, would be interested in any tools or ideas other people have come up for scam baiting, which seems the only tool we have to fight scammers.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 08:58:38 GMT</pubDate>
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    <dc:date>2023-10-09T08:58:38Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi all;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; I had a question.&amp;nbsp; Everybody knows that scammers abound on the Internet, and that they rely on International borders for protection.&amp;nbsp; Every scammer I have run into has used G-Mail, or some other "free" mail site to run their operation.&amp;nbsp; Sure, we can report them to Google, but that just means that account gets shut down and they open another.&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp; I recently got a scam mail to help move 15 million out of Syria in return for 10%.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;The email included an image of his&amp;nbsp; passport (so I know it's real).&amp;nbsp; I was going to bait the guy, and was thinking of sending a fake ID in return (just to be fair) but realized that my fake ID might be used as a basis for another scam.&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp; This got me thinking.&amp;nbsp; Sure, we can shut down an account,&amp;nbsp; but identifying the components of a scam could flag an account before it accomplishes its intent.&amp;nbsp; For example, if the image used for ID by the scammer was added to a watch list, any account sending that image would be known as a scammer.&amp;nbsp; Google has image analysis capability,&amp;nbsp; so it seems that even attempts to thwart the system by changing a couple pixels each time could be thwarted.&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp; Naturally, you cannot contact anybody at Google to suggest this.&amp;nbsp; Another thing that might be nice is if Google (and other providers) provided a way to let security professionals send a "poison pill" image that could be tracked to identify where it went to identify networks used by scammers. (EG, I could generate a fake ID on Google with a watermarked image that Google could track).&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;nbsp;Anyway, would be interested in any tools or ideas other people have come up for scam baiting, which seems the only tool we have to fight scammers.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 08:58:38 GMT</pubDate>
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