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    <title>topic Most Secure Phones for Traveling Business Environment in Tech Talk</title>
    <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/13062#M357</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;Hi Friends!&amp;nbsp;&lt;IMG id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.isc2.org/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;Seeking some phone input from the experts (that's you guys) because Google has given me nothing but conflicting and outdated information. A client of ours is the US division of a well known International Organization. Staff members from their US office travel frequently around the world and, as part of a new "Travel Security Policy," they will be required to take company issued phones with them when they travel internationally (previously, this was optional). This company, without consulting us first, just purchased a bunch of cheap Androids on Amazon and they all tested positive for Chinese malware.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;What are some of the most secure phone choices for a mid-sized office environment? Our only requirement is that they support dual-sim cards. We have JT Global sim cards to use in them and we would expect staff members to procure local SIM cards upon their arrival in their destination countries.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;They say cost is an issue&amp;nbsp;but I would rather recommend a good, secure, expensive solution that won't wind up getting them sued out of existence due to a data breach than to recommend a crappy phone that feeds all their data to organized crime or to some punk in his mom's basement.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;Recommendations?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 08:52:46 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-10-09T08:52:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Most Secure Phones for Traveling Business Environment</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/13062#M357</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;Hi Friends!&amp;nbsp;&lt;IMG id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.isc2.org/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" /&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;Seeking some phone input from the experts (that's you guys) because Google has given me nothing but conflicting and outdated information. A client of ours is the US division of a well known International Organization. Staff members from their US office travel frequently around the world and, as part of a new "Travel Security Policy," they will be required to take company issued phones with them when they travel internationally (previously, this was optional). This company, without consulting us first, just purchased a bunch of cheap Androids on Amazon and they all tested positive for Chinese malware.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;What are some of the most secure phone choices for a mid-sized office environment? Our only requirement is that they support dual-sim cards. We have JT Global sim cards to use in them and we would expect staff members to procure local SIM cards upon their arrival in their destination countries.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;They say cost is an issue&amp;nbsp;but I would rather recommend a good, secure, expensive solution that won't wind up getting them sued out of existence due to a data breach than to recommend a crappy phone that feeds all their data to organized crime or to some punk in his mom's basement.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;Recommendations?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2023 08:52:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/13062#M357</guid>
      <dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-10-09T08:52:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Most Secure Phones for Traveling Business Environment</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/13084#M359</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The dual SIM market is dominated by Chinese phones. Offerings by trusted vendors such as Huawei or OnePlus are still acceptable, unless you are dealing with national security related businesses.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Alternatives are the Samsung and Nokia, with later being my pick, primarily due to that firm's long association with IT security industry.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.androidauthority.com/best-dual-sim-android-phones-529470/" target="_self"&gt;https://www.androidauthority.com/best-dual-sim-android-phones-529470/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.nokia.com/en_int/phones/all-phones?features[]=Dual%20SIM" target="_self"&gt;&amp;nbsp;https://www.nokia.com/en_int/phones/all-phones?features[]=Dual%20SIM&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:24:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/13084#M359</guid>
      <dc:creator>vt100</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-31T23:24:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Most Secure Phones for Traveling Business En vironment ((ISC)Â² Community Subscription Update)</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/13086#M360</link>
      <description>&amp;gt; vt100 (Newcomer III) posted a new reply in Tech Talk on 07-31-2018 07:24 PM in&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt; trusted vendors such as Huawei&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Ah, this is obviously some strange usage of the word "trusted" that I wasn't&lt;BR /&gt;previously aware of ...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer)&lt;BR /&gt;rslade@vcn.bc.ca slade@victoria.tc.ca rslade@computercrime.org&lt;BR /&gt;Success usually comes to those who are too busy to be looking for&lt;BR /&gt;it. - Henry David Thoreau&lt;BR /&gt;victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm &lt;A href="http://www.infosecbc.org/links" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.infosecbc.org/links&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/" target="_blank"&gt;http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://twitter.com/rslade" target="_blank"&gt;http://twitter.com/rslade&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2018 23:58:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/13086#M360</guid>
      <dc:creator>rslade</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-31T23:58:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Most Secure Phones for Traveling Business En vironment ((ISC)Â² Community Subscription Update)</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/13593#M411</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.isc2.org/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/1324864413"&gt;@rslade&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt; vt100 (Newcomer III) posted a new reply in Tech Talk on 07-31-2018 07:24 PM in&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt; trusted vendors such as Huawei&lt;BR /&gt;Ah, this is obviously some strange usage of the word "trusted" that I wasn't&lt;BR /&gt;previously aware of ...&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Lest folks not understand Grandpa Rob' comment, please see the following articles:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/06/huaweis-229-smartphone-us-government-says-dont-buy-it.html" target="_blank"&gt;A $229 smartphone just launched, and the US government doesn't think you should buy it&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;(6 March 2018)&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.androidcentral.com/why-does-us-government-mistrust-huawei" target="_blank"&gt;Why does the U.S. government mistrust Huawei and not ZTE or Lenovo?&lt;/A&gt; (31 March 2018)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/13/new-defense-bill-bans-the-u-s-government-from-using-huawei-and-zte-tech/" target="_blank"&gt;https://techcrunch.com/2018/08/13/new-defense-bill-bans-the-u-s-government-from-using-huawei-and-zte-tech/&lt;/A&gt; (14 August 2018)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;or simply search the web for "Huawei U.S. government"&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2018 13:03:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/13593#M411</guid>
      <dc:creator>CraginS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-14T13:03:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Most Secure Phones for Traveling Business Environment</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/14055#M430</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;HI Shaun,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I always suggest Cryptophone from ESD America. It is a truly secure phone with high encryption, with best voice quality and with baseband firewall. It protects against any eavesdropping, man-in-the-middle attack and protects against SS7 Vulnerabilities.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Check &lt;A href="https://esdcryptophone.com/" target="_blank"&gt;https://esdcryptophone.com/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;BR&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2018 11:52:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/14055#M430</guid>
      <dc:creator>vekarman</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-08-28T11:52:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Most Secure Phones for Traveling Business Environment</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/20376#M1022</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Might want to reconsider Nokia&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/nokia-phones-caught-mysteriously-sending-213345090.html" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.yahoo.com/news/nokia-phones-caught-mysteriously-sending-213345090.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 22 Mar 2019 17:40:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/20376#M1022</guid>
      <dc:creator>kpinkham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-03-22T17:40:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Most Secure Phones for Traveling Business Environment</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/20410#M1030</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;They have been made obsolete through the actions of the "White House":&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/23/politics/kushner-whatsapp-concerns/index.html" target="_blank"&gt;https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/23/politics/kushner-whatsapp-concerns/index.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Caute_cautim&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 24 Mar 2019 06:54:17 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Tech-Talk/Most-Secure-Phones-for-Traveling-Business-Environment/m-p/20410#M1030</guid>
      <dc:creator>Caute_cautim</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-03-24T06:54:17Z</dc:date>
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