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Paris call for trust and security in cyberspace

rslade — Mon, 09 Oct 2023 09:00:06 GMT

This is the time of year I usually post something about Remembrance Day, November 11.

At any rate, in related but somewhat different news, November 12th may be important this year. That is the scheduled release date for the Paris call for trust and security in cyberspace.

Microsoft, of course, has launched a "digital peace" campaign (along with some other organizations). I don't know if there is any relation.

I await November 12th.

Re: Paris call for trust and security in cyberspace

rslade — Thu, 15 Nov 2018 02:07:07 GMT

Right. In concert with the Paris Peace Forum, which is part of the celebrations of the 100th anniversary of the WW I armistice, the Paris Call for Trust and Security in Cyberspace has been released. The document itself is here, with the list of signatories here. An article announcing the release can be found here.

Oddly, you will note that, allying itself with Russia and North Korea, the United States has refused to sign it ...

Re: Paris call for trust and security in cyberspace

Flyslinger2 — Thu, 15 Nov 2018 19:31:25 GMT

@rslade wrote:
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Oddly, you will note that, allying itself with Russia and North Korea, the United States has refused to sign it ...

Not odd. Cautious is how I would put it. If you recall Paris was also the one that put forth the Paris Agreement for greenhouse gases. It basically was a huge money grab from the US to distribute to the rest of the world when the US is light years ahead of everyone else in lowering it's greenhouse gas emissions. I would guess that Trump wants to see how this plays out before he commits.

I'm also not too keen on the article especially when the author lumps the US in with other nefarious countries: "It’s not clear why the United States chose to join some of the world’s most repressive regimes in refusing to sign the agreement, but it’s far from the first time America has split from its allies under the leadership of the Trump administration — and just like the previous times, Russia stands to benefit substantially from America’s retreat from the global stage."

Russia does not play by the rules. EVER.

I don't think there would be a balanced approach in this effort either.

Re: Paris call for trust and security in cyberspace

DAlexander — Fri, 16 Nov 2018 06:34:19 GMT

After reading the original document, I'm not sure I would have signed it either. It really doesn't commit anyone to anything other than agreeing to get together for more dinner and drinks in Paris and Berlin in 2019...and likely sign another meaningless document.

The third paragraph also raises some concerns:

"We also reaffirm that international law, including the United Nations Charter in its entirety, international humanitarian law and customary international law is applicable to the use of information and communication technologies (ICT) by States."

Is this the same United Nations Charter that the majority of the signatories don't abide by anyhow? I believe this has been one of the major criticisms of the UN members - that they are not holding up their ends of the deal and that the burden has fallen primarily on the U.S. to support. The paragraph I've cited above could be translated to mean that the burden of say, "Prevent[ing] and recover[ing] from malicious cyber activities that threaten or cause significant, indiscriminate or systemic harm to individuals and critical infrastructure" would also fall largely on the U.S. to finance.

Another thing I find ironic about this whole "Call for Trust and Security" is that it was sponsored by the same government that said it needed a European Army to defend itself from the U.S.

Finally, and @rslade I've mentioned this before, it is important to know something about the sources of "news" we read and share. The article that this thread is based on originated on Shareblue. This particular media brand is strongly biased toward liberal causes and has been suspected of publishing stories that are propagandist and factually misleading. The website is run by David Brock who has been called a "Left Wing Hit Man" known for campaigns against the U.S. president and other conservatives.