topic Re: Inclusionary Language on Eligibility in Member Support

Inclusionary Language on Eligibility

DMEdwards — Mon, 09 Oct 2023 09:50:50 GMT

I am hoping someone can recommend to me the right communication path to request that the language on the "(ISC)² Candidate Background Qualifications" web page be modified to be more inviting to people who have lived under a different name for entirely legitimate reasons, such as being transgender or fleeing domestic abuse situations. I have heard from a couple of people that they have not pursued (ISC)² certifications because the current eligibility statement makes it sound like they are unwelcome.

Thanks,

-- Don

Re: Inclusionary Language on Eligibility

DMEdwards — Sat, 03 Apr 2021 11:54:36 GMT

Not sure why I was labeled as a "Newcomer" - I have been a proud member of (ISC)² for 9 years.

Re: Inclusionary Language on Eligibility

AlecTrevelyan — Sat, 03 Apr 2021 12:40:01 GMT

@DMEdwards wrote:
Not sure why I was labeled as a "Newcomer" - I have been a proud member of (ISC)² for 9 years.

"Newcomer" is supposed to be better than "Reader" which would have been your previous Community rank:

https://community.isc2.org/t5/Welcome/ISC-Community-Rankings-and-Badges/m-p/5381#M316

Re: Inclusionary Language on Eligibility

DMEdwards — Sat, 03 Apr 2021 12:41:22 GMT

Oh, that makes sense. Thank you, Alec!

-- Don

Re: Inclusionary Language on Eligibility

rslade — Sat, 03 Apr 2021 17:20:19 GMT

> DMEdwards (Newcomer I) posted a new reply in Member Support on 04-03-2021 07:54

> Not sure why I was labeled as a "Newcomer" - I have been a proud member of
> (ISC)Â² for 9 years.

It's an automatic tag based on the number of posts that you've made. See:
https://community.isc2.org/t5/W/I/m-p/5381
I was really annoyed when I was tagged as a "Defender" because pretty much
everyone knows that there are many recent actions by ISC2 that I do not defend
*at all* 🙂

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Re: Inclusionary Language on Eligibility

AndreaMoore — Tue, 13 Apr 2021 19:01:32 GMT

@DMEdwards

Thank you for sharing this. We have reached out to the appropriate team to review for clarity, inclusivity and appropriateness for certification candidates.

@DMEdwards wrote:

I am hoping someone can recommend to me the right communication path to request that the language on the "(ISC)² Candidate Background Qualifications" web page be modified to be more inviting to people who have lived under a different name for entirely legitimate reasons, such as being transgender or fleeing domestic abuse situations. I have heard from a couple of people that they have not pursued (ISC)² certifications because the current eligibility statement makes it sound like they are unwelcome.

Thanks,

-- Don

Re: Inclusionary Language on Eligibility

DMEdwards — Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:15:57 GMT

Huge thanks to everyone involved in reviewing the eligibility language! I see that the criteria about pseudonyms has been removed entirely, which is wonderful.

Re: Inclusionary Language on Eligibility

AndreaMoore — Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:57:40 GMT

Thank you to everyone who brought this to our attention. We posted a blog discussing these changes:

https://blog.isc2.org/isc2_blog/2021/11/we-heard-you-updates-to-the-isc2-ethics-questions.html