topic Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election in Member Support

(ISC)2 Board of Directors election

dcontesti — Sat, 31 Aug 2019 14:29:58 GMT

I am personally dismayed that the candidates on this year's board ballot have not stopped by to chat with the membership.

I know that Wim Remes posted several questions that he would like to see the potential candidates answer but have seen no response.

Anyone else concerned?

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

Shannon — Sat, 31 Aug 2019 14:59:48 GMT

Honestly, I haven't been diligently following it all and wasn't aware that they haven't been participating, but if that is the case, yes, it is disturbing.

If they're going to play a part in making the big decisions to address issues, they should know what 's going on and what they've got to deal with.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

rslade — Sat, 31 Aug 2019 18:49:52 GMT

> Shannon (Community Champion) posted a new reply in Member Support on 08-31-2019

> Honestly, I haven't been diligently following it all and wasn't aware that
> they haven't been participating

Oh, come. For the past 20 years interaction with the BoD has been the
exception, rather than the rule. I mean, Wim has posted a bit (now that he's off
the Board?), and GregT came, proved that he was a lurker, and took off in a huff
when he was called one. Who else from the BoD has been here?

> but if that is the case, yes, it is disturbing.
> If they're going to play a part in making the big decisions to address issues,
> they should know what 's going on and what they've got to deal with.

I agree. And it's clear, and consistent, that the BoD has no interest in the
common membership.

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Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

CraginS — Sun, 01 Sep 2019 16:30:33 GMT

@rslade wrote:
> Shannon (Community Champion) posted a new reply in Member Support on 08-31-2019

> Honestly, I haven't been diligently following it all and wasn't aware that
> they haven't been participating

Oh, come. For the past 20 years interaction with the BoD has been the
exception, rather than the rule. I mean, Wim has posted a bit (now that he's off
the Board?), and GregT came, proved that he was a lurker, and took off in a huff
when he was called one. Who else from the BoD has been here?
...
I agree. And it's clear, and consistent, that the BoD has no interest in the
common membership.

Once upon a time there was a lively CISSP Forum that was initially nominally an official meeting place for (ISC)2 certification holders. Even s it slowly slid form official to unsupported to reviled status, it stayed lively and active. Year after year there were calls for BoD members to be active in that forum. Crickets can be loud at time.

I surmise that there is similar silence over on the successor (definitely unofficial) forum over on Groups.io.

So, we continue to confirm, everything old is new again.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

denbesten — Sun, 01 Sep 2019 19:14:14 GMT

Last year, there was a "2018 Election" group. A few candidates did join in and participate a bit. After the election, the group was "archived" so that none of have access to the historical record. The presence of the group inspired me to vote and my vote was influenced by those who participated.

This year, I have not seen any candidates announce themselves and a "2019 Election" group has not been created. If nothing improves, I may just be submitting a blank ballot, so that they at least know the issue was not that I forgot.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

dcontesti — Mon, 02 Sep 2019 13:22:36 GMT

@denbesten wrote:
Last year, there was a "2018 Election" group. A few candidates did join in and participate a bit. After the election, the group was "archived" so that none of have access to the historical record. The presence of the group inspired me to vote and my vote was influenced by those who participated.

This year, I have not seen any candidates announce themselves and a "2019 Election" group has not been created. If nothing improves, I may just be submitting a blank ballot, so that they at least know the issue was not that I forgot.

Unfortunately, I believe a blank ballot is disregarded and not really looked at (It was always treated as a spoiled ballot) and unless a significant number of folks do it, may not get the message across.

Instead, I plan on writing in four names of individuals that I believe would be great board members (remember there are three ways to be elected to the board of directors according to the by-laws (1st by Board nomination, 2nd by collecting x number of signatures and 3rd by write-in)).

Just my thoughts,

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

denbesten — Mon, 02 Sep 2019 15:42:24 GMT

I like that approach better. Same message, delivered much more strongly,

Are you perhaps interested in a write-in run at it?

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

rslade — Mon, 02 Sep 2019 16:18:52 GMT

> CraginS (Advocate I) posted a new reply in Member Support on 09-01-2019 12:30 PM

> I surmise that there is similar silence over on the
> successor (definitely unofficial) forum over on Groups.io.

True. I don't know if we have any BoD members (or prospects) on the forum,
and, if so, they certianly aren't saying anything.

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Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

Kaity — Tue, 03 Sep 2019 13:50:21 GMT

Hello all! We're planning an election-specific board which will be opened tomorrow.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

Shannon — Tue, 03 Sep 2019 14:27:07 GMT

That will be great --- so long as we get some participation from those standing for election to the BoD.

If we're moving the discussion elsewhere but they won't be joining anyway, it's not going to serve any purpose...

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

dcontesti — Wed, 04 Sep 2019 12:15:17 GMT

@denbesten wrote:
I like that approach better. Same message, delivered much more strongly,

Are you perhaps interested in a write-in run at it?

The last time, I threw my hat in the ring, there were those that said I was not a good choice, at that time, I threw my hat in so that a woman might be put on the ballot.

As I am always game for most things, if folks want to write my name in, that would be fine. However with a write-in, the names have to be identical otherwise the name is counted separately (so D.L. Contesti and Diana Contesti would be counted as two separate people).

If folk decide to write my name on the ballot, please use Diana Contesti.

Regards

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

dcontesti — Wed, 04 Sep 2019 12:17:22 GMT

@Kaity wrote:
Hello all! We're planning an election-specific board which will be opened tomorrow.

Great news. A little late in the process but good to see.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

DavidMelnick — Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:06:40 GMT

I would love to engage, but i am embarassed to say it is more a technical user problem that I had never taken the time to figure out how this platform works. However I recognize the importance, as it is one of a small number of ways we can directly all engage across our community.
David Melnick, Candidate

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

DavidMelnick — Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:07:35 GMT

Shannon, I would always be available for direct communication, but agree we should have forums that work. David Melnick, Candidate

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

DavidMelnick — Fri, 06 Sep 2019 18:10:26 GMT

Your comment is fair, but having been on the Board, I think the Board suffered a bit from putting gags on individual members to ensure we all spoke as one board. I think this became a problem that should be corrected. Board Members need the freedom to engage. David Melnick, Candidate

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

CraginS — Sun, 08 Sep 2019 22:06:44 GMT

@DavidMelnick wrote:
Your comment is fair, but having been on the Board, I think the Board suffered a bit from putting gags on individual members to ensure we all spoke as one board. I think this became a problem that should be corrected. Board Members need the freedom to engage. David Melnick, Candidate

David, this is an extremely disturbing statement. I ask that you and all candidates deal with the issue in the thread

Board Members Gagged! Denied Comms with Members!

in the 2019 Election Forum.

@dcontesti & @rslade please see my plea to you each in that thread.