topic Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election in Member Support

(ISC)2 Board of Directors election

TrickyDicky — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 11:24:50 GMT

So according to the timeline at https://www.isc2.org/About/Board-of-Directors/Board-Elections the current Board's list of preferred candidates in this years election (the 2019 Slate) should have been announced on 14th June. I don't see anything on the news or the blog pages on the website, and I haven't received any email notification yet.

Does anyone have insight into when the Slate will be announced?

It would seem that the election won't be held on time either (12th Sept) as the bylaws state that there must be 90 days between the announcement of the Slate and the election

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

AlecTrevelyan — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 11:34:44 GMT

I received the following email notification on Friday night (UK time) which is exactly 90 days from the 12th September:

EDIT: double-check your communication preferences in your profile on the member portal if you didn't receive this.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

TrickyDicky — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 12:20:07 GMT

Thanks Alec. I hadn't see that notice before. Even went on to my profile to check that the email I'd registered at was still correct. Was kinda expecting to see something like that, but haven't been notified yet.

I wonder if bylaws require all members to be notified, or only a subsection of the membership. I suspect that the emails are bundled to go out in tranches (from connect@isc2.org) and the full membership have yet to be notified.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

MikeGlassman — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 12:28:39 GMT

I too have not received anything yet.

Will wait and see.

I'm very interested in seeing who is listed this year, as I am looking to see if there is any fresh blood.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

TrickyDicky — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 14:18:26 GMT

Mike, if you look at Alec's post below you'll see the names. Lots of familiar names there (Zachary and Arthur seeking re-election, David seeking to come back on the board from previous tenure, Aloysius who was also on the slate last year, Yiannis who co-chaired the EMEA advisory council (when there was one)) and some new ones. I'll be interested in seeing what each of them see themselves bringing to the board in terms of their vision and strategy.

Edit: It's worth remembering that there have been two appointments this year by the current board (one of them being the excellent Dr Charest, who I was disappointed didn't get reelected last year). If five of the board's Slate nominees are elected in the September elections, then the sitting Board will have seven of it's chosen individuals elected or appointed in the space of the year. That's more than HALF of the board! (IMHO, too much influence by one sitting body)

If there are any members who are eligible, and are willing to put in the work required over a three year period, then I'd encourage them to run as independent candidates in the election, and provide some choice for the membership.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

dcontesti — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 16:40:01 GMT

I live in Canada and did not see anything until 5:59 PM on the 14th which is really after CoB but that is a minor point unless I plan to petition to be on the ballot (now I would only have 29 days to collect signatures and not the 30 they elude to). I believe the real issue is that there are members that have not or may not ever see the announcement.

Also of note, there are no ladies listed on this ballot.

To add to both Alec and Richard's notes, in order to be put on the ballot as a petitioner, you must follow these steps:

Petition Instructions:

To submit a petition, please follow these steps:

* No later than 5:00 p.m. EDT (10:00 p.m. UTC) on 14 July 2019, submit a written or electronic petition to (ISC)², containing the signatures of no less than 500 members who are in good standing. Please send hard copy petitions to:

(ISC)²
ATTN: Board Elections
311 Park Place Blvd., Suite 400
Clearwater, FL 33759

Please send electronic petitions to: bodelections@isc2.org.

* Candidates submitting electronic petitions must submit an email that contains (a) original encapsulated emails from supporters using their email address of record and providing their (ISC)² member ID number; and, (b) an Excel spreadsheet listing all such names, each with the corresponding email address of record and (ISC)² member number. No exceptions can be made to this process.

* All petitions will be verified to ensure that they meet all of the requirements. If yours does not, where possible, we will notify you as soon as possible, giving you the opportunity to resolve the matters that prevented your first submission from being accepted and submit a corrected petition before the submission deadline.

* All successful petitioners will be notified.

* Following the close of the petition process, (ISC)² will post candidate biographies on the member website.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

dcontesti — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 16:42:25 GMT

@TrickyDicky wrote:

Edit: It's worth remembering that there have been two appointments this year by the current board (one of them being the excellent Dr Charest, who I was disappointed didn't get reelected last year). If five of the board's Slate nominees are elected in the September elections, then the sitting Board will have seven of it's chosen individuals elected or appointed in the space of the year. That's more than HALF of the board! (IMHO, too much influence by one sitting body)

I believe in any organization (voting), seven members of a 13 member comes close to representing quorum.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

dcontesti — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 17:59:35 GMT

Seems I did not include some very useful information:

NOTE: (ISC)² does not endorse or promote individual petitioners. It is up to individuals to promote their own petition and encourage other (ISC)² members to "sign" their petition. It remains the responsibility of the members soliciting signatures to gather them pursuant to the instructions above and submit them to (ISC)² accordingly. However, in an effort to assist those seeking signatures for their petition, (ISC)² will send an email to all global members announcing the name, email address and relevant website of those petitioning, asking that they contact the petitioner directly for more information. (ISC)² WILL NOT COLLECT PETITION SIGNATURES, but we will send one email to members on behalf of those seeking signatures. If you desire to solicit signatures for the petition process via the email, please send your name, email address, and website (if applicable) to bodelections@isc2.org no later than 21 June 2019. Only websites that provide information regarding the petitioner's platform, bio or other election information will be listed.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

AppDefects — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 13:47:38 GMT

How does the Board go about endorsing members for election?

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

TrickyDicky — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 14:44:35 GMT

#AppDefects So, as best I remember it (but no doubt I'll be corrected if I'm wrong), the Board, past members of the Board, Fellows of the organisation, and Board Award recipients can all nominate.

What's supposed to happen is that the Board are supposed to ask various committees, advisory groups (where they exist), etc. for nominations.

Effectively the Board come up with about 25 names (although many of them you'll see are friends and close contacts through other activities). They then (through the Nominating Committee), assign criteria and weighting to each candidate and score them. Effectively the 6 to 8 highest scoring candidates go on the slate with the approval of the Board as a whole.

You can see the process and the criteria that are supposed to be applied at Board Election FAQs on https://www.isc2.org/en/About/Board-of-Directors/Board-Elections

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

AppDefects — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:17:35 GMT

@TrickyDicky wrote:

Effectively the Board come up with about 25 names (although many of them you'll see are friends and close contacts through other activities).

Thanks for the link. Any semblance of a patronage appointment really scares the democracy right out of me.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

TrickyDicky — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:47:51 GMT

To be fair, I don't think that bodies like the Board (or the individual members that are there) set out with that intention. It's just natural to want to spend time with people you like. It's easy (even Google can do it) to trace the link between a number of Board members and their selection choices. TBH, I don't mind a little bit of nepotism - as long as all of those people do their jobs really well.

EDIT: I have to temper all of this debate with a caveat. Being a member of the Board of Directors is a significant commitment that few are prepared to step up to. There's a lot of work that needs to be done during the year on various committees. An active board member (in-person meetings, telecalls, committees, advisory and advocacy activities, representation, mentoring, etc.) can forget about a personal life, and can probably just about manage to hold down a job.

With a good Board - everybody performing well - you can get a lot achieved.

With a poor board - carrying dead weight - will anyone notice?

The Catch-22 is that if you're a good enough candidate to pass the criteria for selection with flying colours, you probably don't have the time available to you to be a productive Board member (you're doing other things).

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

dcontesti — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:57:05 GMT

Apparently there are two different lists being presented to the members ( one via email and the other on the Website). And still John Martin was not on the official list has the date of the election changed?

So who is actually running.

Sent from my iPhone

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

AppDefects — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:45:09 GMT

@TrickyDicky wrote:

The Catch-22 is that if you're a good enough candidate to pass the criteria for selection with flying colours, you probably don't have the time available to you to be a productive Board member (you're doing other things).

Can you explain what selection criteria is used?

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

TrickyDicky — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:53:29 GMT

EDIT: Released from SPAM

@AppDefects Best directed at Biljana and Greg who co-chair the Nominations Committee. The criteria can be changed and weighted (positively and negatively) at the behest of the committee.

The three qualities called out on the webpage allude to:

Have demonstrated their abilities.
Have the desire to provide their time and energies to (ISC)² over an extended period of time.
Are likely to be productive board members.

It's likely that some of the criteria will speak to these. Then:

"When assembling the endorsed slate every election year, the Board is looking for a balance of experience and particular personal characteristics."

The bullets underneath this statement give further guidance to the characteristics being sought.

Perhaps someone from @isc2 could direct this thread to Greg and Biljana so that they might add their response to your excellent question.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

TrickyDicky — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:46:42 GMT

@AppDefects My response to this has been tagged as SPAM. I've referred it to Moderators for untagging

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

TrickyDicky — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:50:53 GMT

@dcontesti

> So who is actually running.

I still haven't received any email notification. I'm assuming the list on the website

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

SamanthaO_isc2 — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:53:58 GMT

@AppDefects - Apologies for that, it is an automated system that sometimes catches legitimate posts. I've gone ahead and approved it for you, it should be showing now.

You can always tag me if you have any questions or need attention to something, too. I've gone ahead and passed along the question to our team as well about the selection criteria to see if there is anything that we can add. I'll post here when I have more information.

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

AppDefects — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 17:27:10 GMT

Thank you @SamanthaO_isc2. I'm more curious about the criteria and process than anything, not that I'd like to run but you never know;)

Re: (ISC)2 Board of Directors election

AlecTrevelyan — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:24:45 GMT

Seemingly, all you need is the backing of 500 members to be added to the ballot.

Maybe we could look to show the power of the Community and get someone from here added to the ballot, and then elected to the Board!