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Validating someone's Cert

dcontesti — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:31:06 GMT

I am wondering how or if I can validate someone's cert?

I know I could do this several years ago, but can't seem to find the link.

Anyone know how?

Thanks

Re: Validating someone's Cert

AlecTrevelyan — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:37:18 GMT

New link:

https://www.isc2.org/MemberVerification

Old link (still works):

https://webportal.isc2.org/custom/CertificationVerification.aspx

EDIT: the new link can be found under the certifications tab on the main site.

Re: Validating someone's Cert

dcontesti — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 18:39:41 GMT

Thank you

Re: Validating someone's Cert

n1njade — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:32:25 GMT

Via this link:

https://www.isc2.org/MemberVerification

HTH

Re: Validating someone's Cert

n1njade — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:32:47 GMT

Oops sorry, noticed someone already answered.

Re: Validating someone's Cert

AlecTrevelyan — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 19:53:10 GMT

Hey, no worries - extra validation is always welcome! 🙂

Re: Validating someone's Cert

AppDefects — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 20:10:38 GMT

Whatever happened to people using Acclaim for digital badges on LinkedIn and elsewhere? https://www.youracclaim.com/

Re: Validating someone's Cert

AlecTrevelyan — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 20:24:53 GMT

I have links to my Acclaim badges on my LinkedIn profile but not everyone does, so there needs to be a formal / official mechanism to validate people's certifications.

EDIT: also there's something to be said for using the actual vendor's validation mechanism versus a third party's.

Re: Validating someone's Cert

Shannon — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 21:54:14 GMT

@AlecTrevelyan wrote:
I have links to my Acclaim badges on my LinkedIn profile but not everyone does, so there needs to be a formal / official mechanism to validate people's certifications.

Yes, I've put them on my profile too, but the sad fact is that not everyone grasps the significance. Employers and their HR should make use of the means provided by the organizations to validate certifications, so I usually facilitate validation information to the employer if needed, with the links below : -

ISACA http://www.isaca.org/CERTIFICATION/Pages/default.aspx

ISC2 https://webportal.isc2.org/custom/certificationverification.aspx

EXIN https://www.exin.com/certificate-authentication?language_content_entity=en

CompTIA https://www.certmetrics.com/comptia/public/transcript.aspx

Microsoft https://mcp.microsoft.com/Anonymous/Transcript/Validate

Re: Validating someone's Cert

rslade — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 22:26:05 GMT

> AppDefects (Contributor I) posted a new reply in Member Support on 06-17-2019

> Whatever happened to people using Acclaim for digital badges on LinkedIn and
> elsewhere? https://www.youracclaim.com/

I don't think that was ever a "thing."

(And, if it was, it shouldn't have been ...)

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Re: Validating someone's Cert

n1njade — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 22:39:09 GMT

Agreed. Tbh, I have never used Acclaim and probably never would.

Re: Validating someone's Cert

dcontesti — Mon, 17 Jun 2019 23:09:39 GMT

So in my case, I need to check someone who does not use Acclaim, says they are a CISSP yet their linkedin profile shows their status as expired.

Thanks to both of you for the assist.

Best

Re: Validating someone's Cert

AlecTrevelyan — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 07:57:14 GMT

@Shannon wrote:

@AlecTrevelyan wrote:
I have links to my Acclaim badges on my LinkedIn profile but not everyone does, so there needs to be a formal / official mechanism to validate people's certifications.

Yes, I've put them on my profile too, but the sad fact is that not everyone grasps the significance. Employers and their HR should make use of the means provided by the organizations to validate certifications, so I usually facilitate validation information to the employer if needed, with the links below : -

...

ISC2 https://webportal.isc2.org/custom/certificationverification.aspx

...
...

Agreed, it's best to make things as easy as possible for people! The great thing about the old ISC2 verification link, which thankfully still works *, is you can send out a URL with the requisite last name and member ID fields filled in so all they have to do is click on it to see your information.

* The new verification link was down recently and on the page ISC2 had put a message to use the old link!

Re: Validating someone's Cert

AlecTrevelyan — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 07:59:25 GMT

@n1njade wrote:
Agreed. Tbh, I have never used Acclaim and probably never would.

I'm seeing more and more vendors, and more and more people starting to use Acclaim so it's starting to gain some traction.

Re: Validating someone's Cert

Steve-Wilme — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 09:02:59 GMT

How many HR departments actually know how to validate certifications online?

We've had candidates claim to have CISSP or other ISC2 qualifications, who haven't provided membership numbers to allow validation.

Independent contractors (ltd companies) simply hide behind the separation of legal personality and effective vouch for themselves. Tends to be the case that those who are not transparent tend not to be qualified.

Re: Validating someone's Cert

AppDefects — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 15:28:26 GMT

Given the above comments I would suggest that (ISC)² Membership Services evaluate the vendor relationship with Acclaim to see if there is continued value in using digital badges. Like others I believe the best source of truth is from the certifying body and not a third-party.

Re: Validating someone's Cert

rslade — Tue, 18 Jun 2019 16:07:05 GMT

> dcontesti (Community Champion) posted a new reply in Member Support on

> So in my case, I need to check someone who does not use Acclaim, says they are a
> CISSP yet their linkedin profile shows their status as expired.

What does LinkeDin know? Do they do any checking of certs? It's probably just
that the person entered their expiry date and have never updated it.

Just use the check site, last name, cert number.

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Re: Validating someone's Cert

denbesten — Thu, 20 Jun 2019 19:09:38 GMT

@AppDefects wrote:
... evaluate the vendor relationship with Acclaim to see if there is continued value in using digital badges...

Acclaim is owned by Person Vue. As long as (ISC)² uses them to administer the testing, there is likely little incentive to discontinue or change.

Re: Validating someone's Cert

dcontesti — Thu, 20 Jun 2019 19:16:43 GMT

@rslade wrote:
> dcontesti (Community Champion) posted a new reply in Member Support on

> So in my case, I need to check someone who does not use Acclaim, says they are a
> CISSP yet their linkedin profile shows their status as expired.

What does LinkeDin know? Do they do any checking of certs? It's probably just
that the person entered their expiry date and have never updated it.

Just use the check site, last name, cert number.

Ah in this case, the person in question had definitely marked their certification as EXPIRED which is why I asked how to check (at my age, it's hard to remember my own name.

Regards,

Re: Validating someone's Cert

vt100 — Fri, 12 Jul 2019 15:18:45 GMT

The ISC2 verification link https://webportal.isc2.org/custom/certificationverification.aspx does not work.

Incidentally, while majority of complains are about actual site, not the community portion of it, I want to specifically mention my beef with community portal.

For the past few years I have been involved with Check Point community that went from 0 to awesome in a span of a year. It was originally based on Jive.

After Jive was gobbled up by Lithium Technologies communities previously hosted by Jive were forced to move their content to Lithium.

This is the same platform that this community is running on, by the looks of it.

After the migration, I am seeing gradual deterioration of the engagements, driven primarily by inferior functionality of Lithium.

the threads are difficult to track, media integration, especially in the body of the post header is non-existent and the formatting, while may be conducive to the mobile browsing, it a far cry from optimal on a larger screens.

Surprisingly, there are practically no alternatives available in this market to chose from. I feel like we were better off when using BBS and IRC.