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    <title>topic Cyber security and physical Security - LET'S GET SERIOUS !! in Member Support</title>
    <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cyber-security-and-physical-Security-LET-S-GET-SERIOUS/m-p/3439#M324</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;IN today Security &amp;nbsp;it's important to understand and be aware of "the closes tie between the&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;cyber security and physical security.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My focus today is to talk about Physical Security in this first post.&amp;nbsp; The second post will provide details instructions including tips and tricks so that we can protect ourselves, our love ones and our assets.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note. All questions are welcome.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here are few horible consequences of ignoring or not considering physical security.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;* Physical intruder ---&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;a bad person entering&amp;nbsp;an unauthorized area could cause severe damage.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;* death/Terrorist ----------- a bad person entering a&amp;nbsp;public place can&amp;nbsp;drop an explosive&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;kill people&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In last years around the world there have been several physical security breach causing death and infrastructure damage.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;here are few example.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;U&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;In France:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Example 01&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;U&gt;Attack type:&amp;nbsp; Vehicle ramming&lt;/U&gt;&amp;nbsp; 86 people killed&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 434 injured&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;description: A 19 tonne cargo truck was deliberately driven into crowds celebrating Bastille Day on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;In United State:&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Example 02 - &lt;U&gt;attack type: Vehicle ramming&amp;nbsp;&lt;/U&gt; 8 people killed and 12 injured&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Example 03 - &lt;U&gt;attack type: mass shooting &lt;/U&gt;in Orlando Florida during concert killing at least 58 people and many injured&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Example 04- &lt;U&gt;attack type:&amp;nbsp; mass shooting&lt;/U&gt; in Texas in Church killing 26 family people men and women and innocent people and maybe injured.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;OK.. enough of a bad news BUT Lets all use our brain as Information security people and find&amp;nbsp; solutions to protect ourselves and our love ones.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please based on examples above... you suggestions are appreciate.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;here is how you should suggest. ( e.g&amp;nbsp; &lt;U&gt;based on the example-01&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/U&gt;&amp;nbsp; my recommendation are ... )&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2017 14:27:02 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ndjouou</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-11-09T14:27:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Cyber security and physical Security - LET'S GET SERIOUS !!</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cyber-security-and-physical-Security-LET-S-GET-SERIOUS/m-p/3439#M324</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;IN today Security &amp;nbsp;it's important to understand and be aware of "the closes tie between the&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;cyber security and physical security.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My focus today is to talk about Physical Security in this first post.&amp;nbsp; The second post will provide details instructions including tips and tricks so that we can protect ourselves, our love ones and our assets.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note. All questions are welcome.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here are few horible consequences of ignoring or not considering physical security.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;* Physical intruder ---&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;a bad person entering&amp;nbsp;an unauthorized area could cause severe damage.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;* death/Terrorist ----------- a bad person entering a&amp;nbsp;public place can&amp;nbsp;drop an explosive&amp;nbsp;and&amp;nbsp;kill people&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In last years around the world there have been several physical security breach causing death and infrastructure damage.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;here are few example.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;U&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;In France:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Example 01&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;U&gt;Attack type:&amp;nbsp; Vehicle ramming&lt;/U&gt;&amp;nbsp; 86 people killed&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 434 injured&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;description: A 19 tonne cargo truck was deliberately driven into crowds celebrating Bastille Day on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;U&gt;In United State:&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Example 02 - &lt;U&gt;attack type: Vehicle ramming&amp;nbsp;&lt;/U&gt; 8 people killed and 12 injured&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Example 03 - &lt;U&gt;attack type: mass shooting &lt;/U&gt;in Orlando Florida during concert killing at least 58 people and many injured&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Example 04- &lt;U&gt;attack type:&amp;nbsp; mass shooting&lt;/U&gt; in Texas in Church killing 26 family people men and women and innocent people and maybe injured.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;OK.. enough of a bad news BUT Lets all use our brain as Information security people and find&amp;nbsp; solutions to protect ourselves and our love ones.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please based on examples above... you suggestions are appreciate.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;here is how you should suggest. ( e.g&amp;nbsp; &lt;U&gt;based on the example-01&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/U&gt;&amp;nbsp; my recommendation are ... )&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2017 14:27:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cyber-security-and-physical-Security-LET-S-GET-SERIOUS/m-p/3439#M324</guid>
      <dc:creator>ndjouou</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-09T14:27:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cyber security and physical Security - LET'S GET SERIOUS !!</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cyber-security-and-physical-Security-LET-S-GET-SERIOUS/m-p/3849#M405</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Lightheartedly(and in opposition to the caps in the subject) I've always mentally files&amp;nbsp;physical security under 'Guns and Dogs', but yes it's much broader than that. So further thoughts...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think that physical security is a case of getting the proportion correct, and environmental design plays a huge part in this. The people operating&amp;nbsp;physical security and&amp;nbsp;controls tend(not always) to be considered 'blue collar'.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;IT Security tends to focus on systems and data, gets technical quickly and can leave most people behind as it get's quite esoteric quickly. &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;IoT, OT and good intelligence(understanding and intervention early) provide some of the best options to combine the two realms. The human factor in both cases is very important.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ensuring that society provides the best life chances to people, and if society is interested in the people that make it up we'll see a long term reduction in atrocities. This will take time and good communications and response to the worst actors is essential, but&amp;nbsp;these have to be fair and seen to be so.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bruce Schneier's ideas on 'Security Theatre' are excellent places to start:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.schneier.com/essays/archives/2009/11/beyond_security_thea.html" target="_self"&gt;https://www.schneier.com/essays/archives/2009/11/beyond_security_thea.html&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;To quote Frank Herbert '...Fear is the mind-killer...'&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Lastly as I referenced the 'Human Factor' I'll include&amp;nbsp;David Lacey, who said my favorite thing ever:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;'&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;EM&gt;A good&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;, &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;EM&gt;modern security architecture&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt; is ragged around the edges, full of holes and exists largely in the minds of practitioners.'&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;It's very appropriate if&amp;nbsp;you consider that the problem is mostly about&amp;nbsp;changing minds.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:26:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cyber-security-and-physical-Security-LET-S-GET-SERIOUS/m-p/3849#M405</guid>
      <dc:creator>Early_Adopter</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-22T18:26:02Z</dc:date>
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