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    <title>topic Re: Cybersecurity job fatigue: How do you handle the stress? in Member Support</title>
    <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cybersecurity-job-fatigue-How-do-you-handle-the-stress/m-p/15456#M2977</link>
    <description>&amp;gt; jjx (Newcomer I) posted a new reply in Member Support on 10-10-2018 07:24 PM in&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; Question: Who&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt; feels like they can actually disconnect after standard 'office hours'?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Generally a) I am unreachable (electronically) on Sunday, and b) my cell phone's&lt;BR /&gt;primary uses are as a clock and to call Gloria if I'm going to be late.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer)&lt;BR /&gt;rslade@vcn.bc.ca slade@victoria.tc.ca rslade@computercrime.org&lt;BR /&gt;I have always been waiting for something better -- sometimes to&lt;BR /&gt;see the best I had snatched from me. - Dorothy Reed Mendenhall&lt;BR /&gt;victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm &lt;A href="http://twitter.com/rslade" target="_blank"&gt;http://twitter.com/rslade&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/" target="_blank"&gt;http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://is.gd/RotlWB" target="_blank"&gt;https://is.gd/RotlWB&lt;/A&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2018 16:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>rslade</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-10-11T16:00:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Cybersecurity job fatigue: How do you handle the stress?</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cybersecurity-job-fatigue-How-do-you-handle-the-stress/m-p/15391#M2970</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;After working for many years in the security arena with long hours, high stresses and frustration I have found the need to use techniques to keep the inner calm.&amp;nbsp; This resonated with myself as I read the article&lt;EM&gt;: &lt;A href="https://www.csoonline.com/article/3253627/leadership-management/cybersecurity-job-fatigue-affects-many-security-professionals.html" target="_self"&gt;Cybersecurity job fatigue affects many security professionals&amp;nbsp;&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;In the past, this topic would have been taboo and hidden as a personal topic.&amp;nbsp; Today, I am finding it a much more open and necessary topic.&amp;nbsp; This also comes up from my lodge where a member committed suicide a little over a year ago.&amp;nbsp; I brought in a group from Minneapolis to discuss issues with Depression in Men and was surprised at how well received it was.&amp;nbsp; More surprising to me was how many lodge brothers were dealing with this themselves or with family members.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The field of security has many stressors that, because we generally work long hours, go unaddressed. Unaddressed stressors can lead to burn-out, depression, feelings of being overwhelmed or worse.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For myself, when stress encroaches on my I like to walk, do some mediation and drink some nice loose leaf teas. This helps calm my mind and release the tension. Each day I start out with a positive meditation and use my Emwave2 Heartmath device to sync myself for the day.&amp;nbsp; I have other techniques and work directly with Paul Scheele and his inner circle.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What do you do to recognize and work with the stress?&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What forums or supports can we share or offer in support of our membership?&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Other suggestions?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2018 01:42:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cybersecurity-job-fatigue-How-do-you-handle-the-stress/m-p/15391#M2970</guid>
      <dc:creator>Daniel-Nash1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-10T01:42:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cybersecurity job fatigue: How do you handle the stress?</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cybersecurity-job-fatigue-How-do-you-handle-the-stress/m-p/15422#M2973</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;gt; Daniel-Nash1 (Newcomer II) posted a new topic in Member Support on 10-09-2018&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; What do&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt; you do to recognize and work with the stress?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I tend to take refuge in absurdity.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2018 19:28:26 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cybersecurity-job-fatigue-How-do-you-handle-the-stress/m-p/15422#M2973</guid>
      <dc:creator>rslade</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-10T19:28:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cybersecurity job fatigue: How do you handle the stress?</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cybersecurity-job-fatigue-How-do-you-handle-the-stress/m-p/15433#M2974</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Daniel,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm speaking on behalf of myself, not the board or (ISC)2 with these comments.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is a very valid and concerning trend in the industry. I made a plug for improving our behavior earlier this week at (ISC)2 Town Hall session during Security Congress. There are two concerning outcomes of the stress and depressive nature of our industry:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1) Personal Welfare&lt;/STRONG&gt;: We put ourselves at risk with high stress, unreasonable expectations, burnout, and depression.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;2) Industry Welfare&lt;/STRONG&gt;: We put the industry pipeline at risk by creating a negative, unattractive persona of the industry as a whole; in a world of a workforce gap estimated around $2M worldwide, and in an industry with historical failures in attracting diverse professionals, I think this is a huge concern.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm happy to see our industry starting to tackle this head-on. It's becoming less taboo and we've had great sessions and panels at everything from bSides to RSAC (the largest security conference in the world).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Like you, I like exercising, meditation, and any quiet time. I do teach some other specific tactics during the Mindfulness-based Leaderships workshops I've done.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's great to keep the conversation going - and I look forward to everyone sharing what works for them!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-jj&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;------&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2018 20:40:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cybersecurity-job-fatigue-How-do-you-handle-the-stress/m-p/15433#M2974</guid>
      <dc:creator>jjx</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-10T20:40:16Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cybersecurity job fatigue: How do you handle the stress?</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cybersecurity-job-fatigue-How-do-you-handle-the-stress/m-p/15443#M2975</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hey &lt;a href="https://community.isc2.org/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/665837775"&gt;@Daniel-Nash1&lt;/a&gt;,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This just popped up in my feed. (Hint, when I viewed on my mobile I saw the whole story but on laptop it's gated.)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT size="4"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;WSJ: "How to Disconnect From ‘Always On’ Work Culture"&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;In our ‘Always On’ world, colleagues text and email us at all hours, expecting a quick response. But with these strategies, you can be happily out of reach—and not out of a job&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;By Matthew Kitchen, Oct. 5, 2018&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-to-disconnect-from-always-on-work-culture-1538740171?mod=e2fb" target="_blank"&gt;https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-to-disconnect-from-always-on-work-culture-1538740171?mod=e2fb&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm a big fan of disconnecting but there is a weird sense of anxiety because in my day-job, we run a small company but our customers are large and some of them are in 'always-on' industries - healthcare, financial, government including E-911, and federal.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#3366FF"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Question&lt;/STRONG&gt;: Who feels like they can actually disconnect after standard 'office hours'?&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;-jj&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;---&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2018 23:24:59 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cybersecurity-job-fatigue-How-do-you-handle-the-stress/m-p/15443#M2975</guid>
      <dc:creator>jjx</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-10T23:24:59Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Cybersecurity job fatigue: How do you handle the stress?</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cybersecurity-job-fatigue-How-do-you-handle-the-stress/m-p/15456#M2977</link>
      <description>&amp;gt; jjx (Newcomer I) posted a new reply in Member Support on 10-10-2018 07:24 PM in&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt; &amp;nbsp; Question: Who&lt;BR /&gt;&amp;gt; feels like they can actually disconnect after standard 'office hours'?&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Generally a) I am unreachable (electronically) on Sunday, and b) my cell phone's&lt;BR /&gt;primary uses are as a clock and to call Gloria if I'm going to be late.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;====================== (quote inserted randomly by Pegasus Mailer)&lt;BR /&gt;rslade@vcn.bc.ca slade@victoria.tc.ca rslade@computercrime.org&lt;BR /&gt;I have always been waiting for something better -- sometimes to&lt;BR /&gt;see the best I had snatched from me. - Dorothy Reed Mendenhall&lt;BR /&gt;victoria.tc.ca/techrev/rms.htm &lt;A href="http://twitter.com/rslade" target="_blank"&gt;http://twitter.com/rslade&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/" target="_blank"&gt;http://blogs.securiteam.com/index.php/archives/author/p1/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;A href="https://is.gd/RotlWB" target="_blank"&gt;https://is.gd/RotlWB&lt;/A&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2018 16:00:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Member-Support/Cybersecurity-job-fatigue-How-do-you-handle-the-stress/m-p/15456#M2977</guid>
      <dc:creator>rslade</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-10-11T16:00:00Z</dc:date>
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