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Waiting for endorsement - Am i "Associate"?

mmarlow — Thu, 15 Mar 2018 21:41:48 GMT

Having passed the CISSP, I am waiting for endorsement. What is the correct way to sign my name?

A) <name> Associate CISSP

B) <name> CISSP Associate

C) <name>

D) [fill in the blank]

Thank you!

Re: Waiting for endorsement - Am i "Associate"?

Wayne_Evans — Fri, 16 Mar 2018 10:56:53 GMT

Hi,

Congratulations - From what I remember, I was advised that I shouldn't do or say or call my self-anything ISCx2 related until the endorsement came through. As your not certified until that process is completed.

I attached the logo/branding usage guidelines (link - https://www.isc2.org/-/media/ISC2/Documents/logoguidelines.ashx?la=en&hash=C14D5C1A379D142E3928BE1DB71B161BC66F9E36), not sure if it clears the water.

I expect there is a definitive answer out there! But I saw this section in the guidelines

Associates of (ISC)² are NOT certified and may not use any Logo or description other than “Associate of (ISC)²”. Under no circumstances may they identify which exam they have successfully passed or use any Logo, other than “Associate of (ISC)²”, in any manner. Failure to abide by this rule may result in the candidate being prohibited from ever attaining any (ISC)² certification.

Kind Regards,

Wayne

Re: Waiting for endorsement - Am i "Associate"?

amandavanceISC2 — Fri, 16 Mar 2018 12:22:13 GMT

Hello Mark,

Congratulations on passing the CISSP! Unless you changed your status, or registered to become an Associate of (ISC)² when you registered for the exam (your congratulations email would confirm if you're an associate or not), you may not say that you are an Associate of (ISC)² and as Wayne confirmed, you may not use the CISSP either. Once your endorsement application has been passed, and you receive the confirmation email, that is when you may claim to hold the CISSP and have passed the exam. If you would like me to double check on if you requested the Associate status, please send me a DM with your (ISC)² ID number.

Best Regards,

Amanda Vance

Re: Waiting for endorsement - Am i "Associate"?

mmarlow — Fri, 16 Mar 2018 13:51:03 GMT

Thank you!

Can I apply for Associate status after the exam?

Melleive — Fri, 05 Oct 2018 16:21:15 GMT

I took my exam and was given provisional confirmation of a passing score. I have the necessary experience to be certified but, I had not realized it would take upwards of 8 weeks to get my certification adjudicated. Is there a way to apply for ISC2 Associate status after the fact? It would be nice to at least be able to put that on my resume until I get my official certification. Barring that, may I say I am awaiting the adjudication of my certification? What can I say to a potential employer regarding my status?

Also, is there a phone number or email I can use to contact the relevant ISC2 department? The public contact info has not been garnering any response.

Re: Can I apply for Associate status after the exam?

amandavanceISC2 — Fri, 05 Oct 2018 17:14:39 GMT

@Melleive Thank you for your inquiry and congratulations! Yes, you can become an Associate of (ISC)² after passing the exam. To do this, please log into your profile, hover over the 'Certifications' tab and click 'Endorsement'. On the next page, click they hyperlink in the first sentence, 'Online Endorsement Application'. Click to start a new application and you will be asked to become an Associate.

Best Regards,

Amanda Vance

Re: Can I apply for Associate status after the exam?

Melleive — Fri, 05 Oct 2018 17:48:25 GMT

Thank you! Ok, next problem. The SSCP does not appear on the list of exams. Should I just click the CISSP link? I won't be taking that anytime soon so, that doesn't seem right. Also, I was told the Assoc. process takes just as long as the cert endorsement process.

Also, it sounds very much like I am under a gag order for 8+ weeks regarding any discussion of my cert or my progress in the certification status without the Associate desgination. Is there anything I can legally add to my resume or say to a potential employer in the interim?

Re: Can I apply for Associate status after the exam?

Melleive — Fri, 05 Oct 2018 17:51:16 GMT

For instance, is the following an allowable statement: "To that end, I am now pursuing certification from both (ISC)2 and CompTIA as a Systems Security Certified Professional (SSCP-awaiting adjudication of my provisional test scores) and Cybersecurity Analyst (CySA+)."

Re: Can I apply for Associate status after the exam?

amandavanceISC2 — Fri, 05 Oct 2018 18:02:48 GMT

@Melleive Unfortunately, until your endorsement has been passed within the 6 week window, you will only be able to list Associate of (ISC)². I have reviewed your file and can see you recently called in. Someone from our Endorsement team will contact you soon to assist you in creating the Associate status. Please note, this is a quick process.

Best Regards,
Amanda Vance

Re: Can I apply for Associate status after the exam?

Melleive — Fri, 05 Oct 2018 18:24:08 GMT

I just received a phone call from one of the endorsement representatives. Her response was that I may legally say the following (and add it to my resume): " I have provisionally passed the SSCP and am currently awaiting endorsement." I was also told I could add my certification number. I was also advised that associate status takes the same amount of time as the SSCP endorsement and that it makes no sense for me since I have the requisite experience. Can you please verify that?

Re: Can I apply for Associate status after the exam?

amandavanceISC2 — Fri, 05 Oct 2018 18:41:31 GMT

@Melleive I believe you may be referring to the assistance application (where (ISC)² acts as your endorser) taking as long as the regular endorsement. If that is the case, yes, the assistance application will take the same amount of time as an endorsement that has an endorser. Switching the account to an Associate of (ISC)² only takes a second (pressing a button). What the representative informed you is correct.

Best Regards,

Amanda Vance

Re: Can I apply for Associate status after the exam?

Melleive — Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:12:00 GMT

Amanda,
We (the endorsement rep and I) discussed the assistance application, but
that is not what I was asking. I have completed the following steps:

1. passed my SSCP exam and
2. submitted my endorsement application, and
3. requested that (ISC)² act as my endorser.

The reason I was asking about Associate status was due to the extended wait
time for the process of endorsement. I have the necessary experience based
on my B.S. in Cybersecurity, which is why I didn't initially apply for
Associate status. What I needed to know is what I can legally claim on my
resume and to employers *while I await endorsement*.
So, just to be very clear, I can legally claim the following:
"I have provisionally passed the (ISC)2 Systems Security Certified
Practitioner exam and am awaiting endorsement for full certification."

I'm sure I sound like a crazy, broken record. I'm really not trying to be
difficult. Just chalk it up to 25 years of military spousedom.

Thank you so much for your patience!
Melleive Marce

Re: Can I apply for Associate status after the exam?

amandavanceISC2 — Fri, 05 Oct 2018 19:21:19 GMT

Melleive,

Not a problem at all, I understand. I apologize for the confusion as I had originally thought you said the Associate status creation can take up to 8 weeks. To confirm, that is the correct verbiage to use until you pass the endorsement process.

Best Regards,

Amanda

Re: Can I apply for Associate status after the exam?

archeanchoas — Mon, 26 Aug 2019 18:37:39 GMT

Amanda,

Can I use the same verbage as above except insert CISSP. I have been waiting for 5 weeks for endorsement and I have a job I wanted to apply for, but I wanted to add something for the certification to my resume. The open period for submitting resumes closes on 27 Aug.

Re: Can I apply for Associate status after the exam?

CyberBeep — Mon, 26 Sep 2022 11:36:07 GMT

Re: Can I apply for Associate status after the exam?

CyberBeep — Mon, 26 Sep 2022 11:37:05 GMT

Exam passed 09/15

application submitted and endorsement done 09/16

approved on 09/23