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Scientists Endorse “Contact Tracing Apps”

AppDefects — Mon, 09 Oct 2023 09:30:15 GMT

More than 300 scientists from around the globe have banded together to sign a joint statement that endorses “contact tracing Apps” here is the statement. Basically, like any good scientist they want data. They are demanding access to the "social graph" and this letter says the data will be used for good, for a limited time...

Re: Scientists Endorse “Contact Tracing Apps”

CraginS — Tue, 21 Apr 2020 17:52:37 GMT

@AppDefects wrote:
More than 300 scientists from around the globe have banded together to sign a joint statement that endorses “contact tracing Apps” here is the statement. Basically, like any good scientist they want data. They are demanding access to the "social graph" and this letter says the data will be used for good, for a limited time...

hmmm. some thoughts come to mind.

1. unintended consequences

2. the is no such thing as universal "scientific ethics" .. .(see Tuskegee Study')

3. slippery slopes can be real

4. "for a limited time"... "I've a bridge to sell you"

5. demanded? under what authority?

Re: Scientists Endorse “Contact Tracing Apps”

Caute_cautim — Wed, 22 Apr 2020 05:31:33 GMT

@CraginS @AppDefects Yes, there are a lot of implications: They might be better using GPS data instead?

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/bluetooth-contact-tracing-app

Under emergency powers within Governments, Privacy literally goes out the door.

Regards

Caute_cautim

Re: Scientists Endorse “Contact Tracing Apps”

Caute_cautim — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 03:53:01 GMT

Here is the view of a cryptographer, very sensible and explains the risks of a centralised tracking system: https://itwire.com/government-tech-policy/cryptographer-suggests-australia-adopt-decentralised-model-for-covid-19-app.html

Regards

Caute_cautim

Re: Scientists Endorse “Contact Tracing Apps”

CraginS — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 14:59:33 GMT

I think it is time to make 1984 required reading for both public policy authorities AND cyber techies!

Craig

Re: Scientists Endorse “Contact Tracing Apps”

CISOScott — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 16:59:30 GMT

@CraginS wrote:
I think it is time to make 1984 required reading for both public policy authorities AND cyber techies!

Craig

The problem is that I think they have and think it is an instruction guide rather than a warning.

Re: Scientists Endorse “Contact Tracing Apps”

Caute_cautim — Thu, 23 Apr 2020 20:08:23 GMT

@CraginS Shall we start the campaign?

https://www.amazon.com/1984-George-Orwell-ebook/dp/B003JTHWKU

0.55 cents US

Regards

Caute_cautim

Re: Scientists Endorse “Contact Tracing Apps”

Caute_cautim — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 00:15:14 GMT

Well you only have to keep watching as it develops:

https://www.bankinfosecurity.com/australia-releases-covidsafe-contact-tracing-app-a-14185

All weekend Twitter conversations have been going on - as of today 2 million Australian's have signed up and increasing. How long before they become a target and someone seriously become embarrassed?

Regards

Caute_cautim

Re: Scientists Endorse “Contact Tracing Apps”

Steve-Wilme — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 14:06:09 GMT

The initiatives do rather assumes the populous carry a smartphone everywhere that they go. Maybe a sufficient proportion of people do to enable contact tracing, but this approach ignores those that don't own a smartphone; which may include particularly vulnerable groups like the elderly or the homeless.

Re: Scientists Endorse “Contact Tracing Apps”

Caute_cautim — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 05:09:58 GMT

You are simply going to roll over laughing over this one:

https://itwire.com/government-tech-policy/covidsafe-app-aws-using-chinese-owned-data-centre-in-sydney,-says-husic.html

Regards

Caute_cautim

Re: Scientists Endorse “Contact Tracing Apps”

Caute_cautim — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 22:50:50 GMT

At last some sensible people, despite a government determined to go ahead with Contact Tracing, with technology which is flawed:

https://www.csoonline.com/article/3540711/how-the-covidsafe-app-could-pierce-your-privacy-and-change-the-privacy-equation.html?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_content=Title%3A%20How%20the%20COVIDSafe%20app%20could%20pierce%20your%20privacy%20%E2%80%94%20and%20change%20Australia%E2%80%99s%20privacy%20equation&utm_campaign=CSO%20Australia%20Data%20Security%20Briefing&utm_term=CSO%20Australia%20Data%20Security%20Briefing&utm_date=20200429224517

Regards

Caute_cautim