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    <title>topic Re: Mentoring to Grow the Security Workforce in Exam Preparation</title>
    <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/10485#M3046</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.isc2.org/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/809125741"&gt;@Caute_cautim&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You appear to have a lot invested, I am sure they will do their best achieve to best result possible.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;All they really needed to succeed is to be surrounded by a team of people that believe they could&amp;nbsp;do the tasks ahead&amp;nbsp;of them.&amp;nbsp; So for me, it is not what I and my team have invested but rather what they can achieve with a little help and a&amp;nbsp;positive work environment.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Back in 1993, when I started my&amp;nbsp;first job in IT as a Sales Assistant, there were only a&amp;nbsp;few people that thought I would succeed.&amp;nbsp; Most told me negative&amp;nbsp;things every day like, "You could never do the work I do." said an engineer and "Just keep doing your&amp;nbsp;sales reports and leave that stuff to us."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The people that believed&amp;nbsp;I could make it, did what they could to help.&amp;nbsp; I learned how computers talk to each other starting in 1986 by building Amateur&amp;nbsp;Radio networks using AX.25 protocol.&amp;nbsp; Many at the VAR did not know how that could possibly apply to a business network.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;After my workday doing construction from 1986 until 1993, I would come home and heat up a soldering iron used to modify commercial voice radios into data radios.&amp;nbsp; I would edit ROM code in HEX and burn the edited EPROMS.&amp;nbsp; These were needed to run on custom boards with Z80 processors that had two intergraded radio modems.&amp;nbsp; One for the backbone and one for local access.&amp;nbsp; When a node was complete it had to be installed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That involved building UHF power splitters, climbing antenna towers, installing antennas and hardline coax cables.&amp;nbsp; Like today, to find an issue you sometimes have to look at each packet.&amp;nbsp; Frame tracing was built into every node.&amp;nbsp; So as a carpenter, I learned how to frame trace.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;None of that experience&amp;nbsp;meant anything to the naysayers.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am glad those days are behind me and look forward to helping as many as I can succeed wherever&amp;nbsp;I can.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Paul&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 22:26:33 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Radioteacher</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-05-20T22:26:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Mentoring to Grow the Security Workforce</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/10461#M3044</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;About a year ago a much younger coworker&amp;nbsp;told me his CompTIA Security+ was going to expire and was thinking about taking the CSA+ (now called&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;CompTIA&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;CySA+).&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;They had already achieved&amp;nbsp;an MCSE: Cloud Platform and Infrastructure the year before and have a demonstrated ability to learn and apply new knowledge to their daily tasks.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;They are very security minded and support many security initiatives including security operations, identity management, and security engineering.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;They studied for the test and asked for guidance in some areas that I could help him on.&amp;nbsp; They passed the test.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I congratulated them and told them that they should see what they would need to do to pass &lt;SPAN&gt;CompTIA&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;CASP.&amp;nbsp; &lt;SPAN&gt;They&amp;nbsp;&lt;/SPAN&gt;decided to take that test as well.&amp;nbsp; This involved more guidance and mentoring and a small setback.&amp;nbsp; By the test score, they barely missed passing.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Undeterred, they retook the test and passed it.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Right after passing the CASP, we discussed&amp;nbsp;next steps.&amp;nbsp; They wanted to continue and take the CISSP.&amp;nbsp; I did tell them that the point of view of the CISSP is very different from the tests they passed from CompTIA.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The test is scheduled in a few weeks.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Every time&amp;nbsp;the security team sees them we&amp;nbsp;pummel them with questions.&amp;nbsp; Describe PKI?&amp;nbsp; What is a HASH algorithm for? What prompted the SOX law?&amp;nbsp; What is the opposite of the CIA triangle?&amp;nbsp; What type of control is a security guard?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think that I am more nervous about this then they are.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Paul&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 15:24:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/10461#M3044</guid>
      <dc:creator>Radioteacher</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-20T15:24:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mentoring to Grow the Security Workforce</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/10478#M3045</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sounds likes you are doing a very worthwhile professional giveback to the community and to the individual.&amp;nbsp; Hopefully with your encouragement they will pass the CISSP examination the first time around.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You appear to have a lot invested, I am sure they will do their best achieve to best result possible.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 20:58:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/10478#M3045</guid>
      <dc:creator>Caute_cautim</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-20T20:58:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mentoring to Grow the Security Workforce</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/10485#M3046</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.isc2.org/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/809125741"&gt;@Caute_cautim&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You appear to have a lot invested, I am sure they will do their best achieve to best result possible.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;P&gt;All they really needed to succeed is to be surrounded by a team of people that believe they could&amp;nbsp;do the tasks ahead&amp;nbsp;of them.&amp;nbsp; So for me, it is not what I and my team have invested but rather what they can achieve with a little help and a&amp;nbsp;positive work environment.&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Back in 1993, when I started my&amp;nbsp;first job in IT as a Sales Assistant, there were only a&amp;nbsp;few people that thought I would succeed.&amp;nbsp; Most told me negative&amp;nbsp;things every day like, "You could never do the work I do." said an engineer and "Just keep doing your&amp;nbsp;sales reports and leave that stuff to us."&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The people that believed&amp;nbsp;I could make it, did what they could to help.&amp;nbsp; I learned how computers talk to each other starting in 1986 by building Amateur&amp;nbsp;Radio networks using AX.25 protocol.&amp;nbsp; Many at the VAR did not know how that could possibly apply to a business network.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;After my workday doing construction from 1986 until 1993, I would come home and heat up a soldering iron used to modify commercial voice radios into data radios.&amp;nbsp; I would edit ROM code in HEX and burn the edited EPROMS.&amp;nbsp; These were needed to run on custom boards with Z80 processors that had two intergraded radio modems.&amp;nbsp; One for the backbone and one for local access.&amp;nbsp; When a node was complete it had to be installed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;That involved building UHF power splitters, climbing antenna towers, installing antennas and hardline coax cables.&amp;nbsp; Like today, to find an issue you sometimes have to look at each packet.&amp;nbsp; Frame tracing was built into every node.&amp;nbsp; So as a carpenter, I learned how to frame trace.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;None of that experience&amp;nbsp;meant anything to the naysayers.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am glad those days are behind me and look forward to helping as many as I can succeed wherever&amp;nbsp;I can.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Paul&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 22:26:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/10485#M3046</guid>
      <dc:creator>Radioteacher</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-20T22:26:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mentoring to Grow the Security Workforce</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/10486#M3047</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Well done - excellent example of professional giveback.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;John&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 22:51:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/10486#M3047</guid>
      <dc:creator>Caute_cautim</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-05-20T22:51:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mentoring to Grow the Security Workforce</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/11098#M3048</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;We just got the word that they passed the CISSP exam today!&amp;nbsp; Now we start the endorsement process&lt;/STRONG&gt;....&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;We are so proud of their success.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Paul&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2018 17:30:38 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/11098#M3048</guid>
      <dc:creator>Radioteacher</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-06-01T17:30:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mentoring to Grow the Security Workforce</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/11441#M3049</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;This week another team member passed their CompTIA Cloud+.&amp;nbsp; The person is a very talented system admin and has been&amp;nbsp;working on a lot of security products for years.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My advice to them is to examine the CSA CCSK test next.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I hope they do because then they could master two more areas (Legal and SDLC) for the CCSP.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ok, after that I will tell them how close they are to a CISSP......&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's like using the escalator instead of the stairs.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; ____&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;|&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; ___|&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;|&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;___|&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Paul&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:13:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/11441#M3049</guid>
      <dc:creator>Radioteacher</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-06-13T19:13:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mentoring to Grow the Security Workforce</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/11635#M3050</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the update, just come back from annual leave overseas.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Now R&amp;amp;R accomplished, I will review comments and structure our study group approach accordingly≥&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Many thanks&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2018 03:23:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/11635#M3050</guid>
      <dc:creator>Caute_cautim</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-06-20T03:23:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mentoring to Grow the Security Workforce</title>
      <link>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/12284#M3051</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;On Tuesday,&amp;nbsp;July 10th we got the email that they are now a CISSP!&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://community.isc2.org/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.png" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This morning, I handed them a CISSP sticker for their laptop which was promptly&amp;nbsp;applied.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;They have to wait until August to start earning CPE's.&amp;nbsp; So when they attend&amp;nbsp;the Alamo (ISC)2 Chapter (San Antonio,&amp;nbsp;TX, US) meeting today, it will be just for fun and education since they cannot earn a CPE for it.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In August....they will be taking the CCSP exam!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Almost time to go to the meeting.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Paul&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;P.S. Support your local &lt;SPAN&gt;(ISC)2&amp;nbsp;C&lt;/SPAN&gt;hapter!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2018 15:55:28 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.isc2.org/t5/Exam-Preparation/Mentoring-to-Grow-the-Security-Workforce/m-p/12284#M3051</guid>
      <dc:creator>Radioteacher</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-07-12T15:55:28Z</dc:date>
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